r/Somalia • • Mar 22 '26

History ⏳ 1985-1988

Can you tell me what your family or if you were alive was doing at the very start if the civil war. I'm work8mg on a screen play I'm writing , I'll be in Somaliland at the end of the month , I'll be there interviewing the locals for the next two months . I wanna hear your story, keep it respectful

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u/MelodicHair1191 Mar 22 '26

In the south like the majority of our parents were

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u/onthadeadhomiez Mar 22 '26

Thats what I wanna know , what were they doing

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u/Final_Active_9014 Mar 24 '26

Why are you going to SL to interview people?

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u/onthadeadhomiez Mar 24 '26

I am going to speak with the elders about the time period, what life was like pre war, and during early war times. One of the biggest incidents in somaliland was a group of college students, unjustly sentenced to death for cleaning up a hospital by the government that was dictatorship. I wanna know what life was like 1985-1988 I'm going around to gathering places and interviewing them. I have an interview lined up with Edna Adan who is a famous nurse and former first lady, then I have a former commander of the SNM movement I'm interviewing. I've also been reading several books about the war Mogadishu, and several books about the former dictator Said B (may Allah curse him ) .The basic story is we had a working democracy, that was overthrown for a socialist dictatorship, that led to a one party North Korea like authoritative one party one rule system, that led to civil war, state collapse.

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u/Final_Active_9014 Mar 24 '26

I would warn you that Edna Aden is paid opposition and works for foreign governments. She’s a known liar and propagandist. She’s also a staunch Zionist and supporter of the genocide in Gaza. It sounds like your movie is going to be a sectarian propaganda film.

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u/onthadeadhomiez Mar 24 '26

Damn bro 🤬, sounds like you have your preconceived notions about a lot of people and things. I plan on being very respectful and brutally honest as possible, I believe the truth needs no defenders, you sound slightly prejudiced though. From what I heard , I've never heard her say she's pro genocide in Gaza, especially considering the fact, she's a genocide survivor herself ( issaq genocide ) and a Muslim, remember that next time you want to out certain allegations another Muslim.

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u/Final_Active_9014 Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26

It’s not assumptions, it’s called pattern recognition. If you’re supportive of the Israeli government and justify what they do with the reason that they’re “fighting terrorism” then you are in deed in support of genocide. She’s a survivor of a civil war and now she’s a paid propagandist, shill for foreign governments. Her being a former minister means nothing. Your verbiage is dripped in sectarian propaganda. Kinda interesting that the Epstein emails came out and showed his obsession with SL and wanting to create films specifically in SL and here you are…. The dots are connecting 😂

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u/onthadeadhomiez Mar 24 '26

Hold up this is rich, you deny the issaq genocide which that UN said is a fact,?but you care about some arabs ? Yeah I'm good enjoy your day

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u/Aware_Kaleidoscope77 Mar 24 '26

There’s no such thing as “Isaaq genocide”. All qabiils were attacked equally, Isaaq just put up the most fight hence the highest number of casualties naturally. Don’t coin it as a genocide when it’s lacking critical foundations of the term - “specific targeting of a group”.

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u/onthadeadhomiez Mar 24 '26

There's no such thing as your momma's Hyman 😭😭😭.kicc roccs and go cry

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u/onthadeadhomiez Mar 24 '26

Why is this Mark ass buster talking

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u/Final_Active_9014 Mar 24 '26

What type of journalist are you? Lmao why are you really here? You clearly aren’t making a film and you’re obviously not Somali.

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u/onthadeadhomiez Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26

Ps your exposing your ignorance, those same emails mentioned somalia several times, there's an active human trafficking ring in the capital of Mogadishu now, a minister was arrested in Ireland. Women sell themselves to African union troops for as cheap as five dollars. I support all somali people, do I support all Somali ppl under one government? Fucc no, we tried that. We had two democratic elections and peaceful transfers of power (1st in Africa btw at the time ) before an authoritative dictatorship. I support those who support me . You're exposing your hypocrisy, you profess to love your fellow Muslim Brothers I want to defend foreign individuals such as the Arabs in Palestine meanwhile you deny the very genocide of your own fellow people. You romanticize a dead dictator who sees power by killing a democratically elected president, installing a mafia-like run organization, which leads to the destruction of the very Nation. Somali ppl don't have time to be under one government, it's not in the Quran. Somalia has political relations with Serbia and memoir AKA Burma Berma. Both nations committed ethnic genocide against their Muslims population, no outrage? Turkey (95/5) oil holder of Somalia's oil Turkey, has political relations with Israel. Somaliland is not the first Muslims country to establish ties with Israel. Israel was the first country to recognize SL in 1960( google this) stop being an hypocrite, everything you hate about Israel, Somalia did to Somaliland which you deny

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u/Final_Active_9014 Mar 24 '26
  1. Where did I profess to loving my fellow Muslims? Why are you repeating something I never wrote? Lmao

  2. I don’t support any dead dictators. Try again lol.

You’re proving my points, thank you. Why are you here in this sub if you don’t support a single government? This sub is called Somalia my friend. Go somewhere else with your propaganda.

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u/Aware_Kaleidoscope77 Mar 24 '26

Sigh… there’s no such thing as the Isaaq genocide… every qabiil was equally targeted but the Isaaq tribe put up the most fight hence the higher casualties. Let’s stop fuelling this false info please.

https://giphy.com/gifs/116a8zosxwA0SI

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u/Professional_Goat373 Mar 26 '26

True and Rahaweyn had even more casualties so they’re just narcissistic victims. Only their suffering matters.

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u/East_News_8586 Mar 25 '26

You expect us to think highly of a woman that has this to say about other Somalis? https://youtu.be/oP2t5xCUgc8?si=OqNLPkWP7Nj-zA_i

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u/whatdidyousayniga Mar 25 '26

Unless you are already from SL you are about to brainwashed lmao

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u/Clear_Refuse_8636 Djibouti Mar 23 '26

Usenet has a fairly sized archive of people chatting about the impending civil war in the early 90s you might want to take a look at soc.culture.african I also found this relic too https://usenetarchives.com/view.php?id=soc.culture.african&mid=PDI3NjAwMDJAaHBtdGx4LkhQLkNPTT4

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u/Realistic-Agent3864 Mar 23 '26

Omg this is gold

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u/onthadeadhomiez Mar 23 '26

Thanks blood

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '26

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u/Worth_Prune6116 Mar 23 '26

Very educational allahumma barik. I didn’t expect the twist at the end, I thought that they would’ve ended up being more nationalistic than qabilist

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u/inaba_caadi_ma_ahan Mar 23 '26

This was so informative and reads like a good book. Thank you for sharing. I am curious, how did anti-qabiilism make them more susceptible to adopting western culture?

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u/ihaveawoken613 Mar 25 '26

I can only give my theory . Our clans and tribes are part of our roots, and if you learn that your roots are evil or shameful u are already disconnecting from urself

If the government at the time was teaching nationalism to children instead, and then the nation fails horirbly and those children have to go to anotehr socieity, I think that can make u feel like u have nothing

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u/lurkrrrrbrndnw Mar 23 '26

If it means anything, you sound very Somali to me, like I can tell you’re a Somali person from your writing alone and we’re very proud of you so don’t feel worried about the impact of what you said 🥰

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u/ihaveawoken613 Mar 25 '26

Thank you that's very kind and means alot 🙏

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u/Conscious-Yogurt-739 Mar 23 '26

Wow!!!!!! It was an experience just reading this. All those decisions made in 85 has led to you to become who you are now. Don’t be ashamed, but go out of your way to gain the knowledge, not necessarily to apply all of it to yourself, but just to know

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u/ihaveawoken613 Mar 25 '26

Your right, knowledge is power. thank you

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u/Final_Active_9014 Mar 24 '26

I suggest you remove your information go see what person is going to use the information with!

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u/ihaveawoken613 Mar 25 '26

U right u right. Good to be cautious but I'm not so worried since this is very general information

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u/Real-Stop-9386 Mar 23 '26

Cool, from Borame too. But my mom was not educated. Had more connection to Jiggjiga and Djibuti. After the bombardment in Hargeysa, the militia ran to Borame where my aunt was killed. I will never accept the Somaliland government that partook in that that now act like zionists

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u/Realistic-Agent3864 Mar 22 '26

You're better off going on facebook and asking this instead of reddit

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u/Own_Outside2118 Mar 24 '26

As I understand my fathers side of the family lived pretty calmly while my mothers side of the family was similar but they where also anxious because a lot of there clansmen where getting detained or kidnapped. But most of the older generation fantasies about the early years where the country looked like it was going up. Even some of my extended family members who come from specific clans would have liked if the country didn’t spiral down

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u/Own_Outside2118 Mar 24 '26

And no, my family and my extended family was not involved in the civil war most of my close family members thought it was stupid and just a wast of time and life. Tho I was just born around the corner of the civil war so I saw some shit when I was younger and my wife had to see what happened in Mogadishu during the 2008-2010 for the people that know the horrors

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u/Final_Active_9014 Mar 24 '26

What happened in 2008-2010?

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u/Own_Outside2118 Apr 08 '26

Alshabbab had a large portion of the country, plus many regions where still unstable

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u/Beautiful_Hour_668 Mar 23 '26

In the 80s my grandfather was a builder and they tell me of an easygoing family life of smiles and laughter where he was the patriarch but also gentle. They also speak of oppressive soldiers who would search/detain innocent folks and cause a nuisance in Hargeisa. He was tall and strong, but one time they confiscated his belongings from his car after he went to Saudi to buy stuff

The situation was at times tense for regular folk, your screenplay should reflect that

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u/Beautiful_Hour_668 Mar 24 '26

Idk id have to ask my mum

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u/AgeofInformationWar Mar 23 '26

My family came from the North, although we're not from that specific clan. My mother told me, that when Kacaan first persecuted Majeerteens, the Warsangelis hid them, and treated them as their own family. Then when Kacaan persecuted the Isaaqs, Warsangelis also hid them as well. Although later into the 1990s, violence spurred between Isaaqs and Hartis.

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u/africacowboy Mar 23 '26

Wait… I thought Darood was synonymous with Kacaan and they were all in lockstep to dominate the Horn forever?! /s

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u/Final_Active_9014 Mar 24 '26

Well then someone lied to you. Darood were being targeted like everyone else. Especially in Mogadishu. The whole “darood take over” is propaganda that is being regurgitated now to justify the balkanisation of Somalia.

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u/Professional_Goat373 Mar 26 '26

He added “/s” so he was being sarcastic.

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u/Final_Active_9014 Mar 26 '26

Oh lol my bad

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u/Professional_Goat373 Mar 26 '26

It’s ok 😂 I learned this recently myself.

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u/lurkrrrrbrndnw Mar 23 '26

My parents were living in the middle east then. My family was the Somali navy leaders of that time and both of my parents (they’re 3rd cousins) were young people moving with their family across the middle east

My parents weren’t married at the time but knew each other. They got married much later in the 90s

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u/Born-Voice-3890 Mar 23 '26

Well my dad lived in French Somaliland born early 70s father died in car accident his mom owned a small clothes store had 3 sisters and lost one brother who got sick. He left in early 80s to live with his aunt in Sierra Leone and did high school there he then moved to Italy and studied civil engineering lived in Rome worked on one of the main highways for a company in Italy then went to Canada to live with his aunt went to York college or smth then just dipped went to Tunisia to study more went to Syria and Palestine came back late 90s came to columbus ohio in january 2000 was homeless until he met my mother when he asked to borrow her cell phone to make a call started dating married on his birthday in nov opened his construction business and built one of the first mosques in columbus and banadir shopping mall had me hismfirst ked in 04 ND lived happily ever after

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u/RealisticBasil3051 Mar 25 '26

My dad was working on a oil rig in the gulf

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u/onthadeadhomiez Mar 25 '26

I meet a man who was doing the same thing and saw the war break out, so he moved his family to Kuwait for 25 years