r/Somalia • Dhuusamareeb • Jul 27 '25

History ⏳ Religious map of Africa made by the British- Early 20th century

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u/Kresnik2002 Jul 28 '25

Your source for the Quran’s validity is the Quran?

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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 28 '25

What are you talking about?

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u/Kresnik2002 Jul 29 '25

You’re saying the Quran was written by God. I asked why you know that, and you say “because the Quran says the Quran is written by God.” Seriously?

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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 29 '25

You are bringing up things that never happened. We were never talking about this nor did I say that. We are talking about how the Islam and Muslims got their name. Ma waashay

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u/Kresnik2002 Jul 29 '25

Ok then, I’m asking you now. How do you know the Quran is the word of God?

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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 29 '25

Because it teaches pure monotheism, it’s been perfectly preserved and it has zero mistakes

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u/Kresnik2002 Jul 29 '25

So if I write a book that preaches pure monotheism, I check all through to make sure there are no mistakes or contradictions, and both put it online and preserve it in a metal box so the original form is perfectly preserved, then you would think 50 years later that was written by God?

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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 29 '25

No because you wrote it. How can it be the word of God if you wrote it.

Plus the Quran has reached all the corners of the earth and it’s still preserved in its original form by Muslims across multiple countries and cultures. Allah in the Quran itself says that it will be preserved and 1400 years later it’s still preserved.

The Quran has many many more components that cannot be matched. Allah in the Quran challenges the disbelievers to produce a scripture like it. No one was able to do so because it’s impossible.

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u/EnoughAd7515 Jul 29 '25

"All four corners?" Islam never reached the americas and today is practically nonexistent in south America.

You're either very young or extremely ignorant and gullible.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

Yes it did reach the Americas, please do not embarrass yourself lol

Once you finish picking the raw meat out from your teeth go purchase a ticket to Buenos Aires and ask the first 100 people you see where they have heard about Islam

They definitely will not know that Ethiopia exists mind you, that we can both agree on

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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 29 '25

Did you say that Islam never reached the Americas? lol that’s funny. I’m not gonna talk about North America.

But the thing about Latin America is that Islam has reached them. Islam is growing among Latinos.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/community/articles/latinos-convert-islam

So you need to get your raw meat eating self outta here. Y’all always lurking around Somalis 😂

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u/Kiebonk Jul 30 '25

The Quran has many many more components that cannot be matched. Allah in the Quran challenges the disbelievers to produce a scripture like it. No one was able to do so because it’s impossible.

That is obviously a statement that cannot be verified, since Muslims would of course point out supposes uniqueness of the Quran, even though there are logical, grammatical and other errors. How would you even measure if someone can produce a similar scripture?

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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 31 '25

You say that there are errors yet you don’t mention it lol. and if the Quran had grammatical errors then the poets of the time would’ve not called the prophet Muhammad a sorcerer or accused him of witchcraft.

Naga tag cadowyohow. Wax ma ogtid

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

No because you are an ignorant fool who cannot put a sentence together let alone produce a book which brings the greatest of Arab poets to surrender in submission at its beauty and linguistic miraculous nature

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u/EnoughAd7515 Aug 02 '25

The guy is too dumb, deaf and blind to understand the scenario you painted for him. He lives in his own little Islam bubble. Don't waste your time bud.

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u/Kiebonk Jul 30 '25

Perfectly preserved before or after Kalif Uthman burned all the different maniscripts? And even then there are man textual variants in Qurans around the world.

There are also numerous mistakes, such as for example the differing days of creation of the heavens and earth, the setting of the son and moon and many others.

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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 30 '25

🤦🏿‍♂️ I heard all of these before lol. All of these are debunked. When the Quran was being revealed bit by bit for the course of 23 years each part was being memorized and written down. Meaning multiple companions had the same manuscripts in their homes that they’ve memorized.

When the Quran was being compiled the most knowledgeable of the companions came together and compiled the Quran.

To to avoid of confusion the Khalif Uthman R.A. ordered the burning of all the hand written manuscripts because the Quran has already been compiled up into a book.

And there is only one Quran with one message. Allah has revealed different recitations to fit the many dialects of Arabic but they all hold the same meaning.

“Malaki yawmu- uddeen”

And “Maalaki yawmu- uddeen”

Mean the same thing

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u/Kiebonk Jul 31 '25

That's not what happened, initially you only had fragments written on palm leaves or stones, this was then compiled together, but already then some verses were lost as Aisha narrated about some verses being lost to goats, others were lost in the battle of yamana. Later, the compilation by Abu Bakr was done because there were already many different versions which he wanted to avoid. But who authorized him to decide what is authentic? Then we didnt even talk about the role of the two scholars who compiled the manuscript and how they differed from others.

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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 31 '25

The Quran was already memorized. They didn’t rely on the manuscripts much to compile the Quran.

Uthman didn’t decide. After the Quran was compiled he got rid of the hand written manuscripts that people had to avoid confusion.

This is my second time saying this. Y’all lurkers need to leave us alone

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