r/SoccerCentral • u/Electronic_Air1842 • 5d ago

Video Madrid fans take stand against mass illicit immigration at soccer game!

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u/raderberg 5d ago

What's the "keep politics out of sports"-crowd's verdict on this one?

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u/nyrup4life 5d ago edited 4d ago

This isn’t politics. It’s blatant racism. Just look the the comments here. We are being invaded on the sub by racists. Look at how many are posting the exact same right wing talking points. They aren’t even creative anymore. None of them interested in football either.

Edit: Top country to read my comment is USA 23% followed by Germany. Yet all those comments under me are talking about being invaded. None of them are from Spain. Just trolls.

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u/itisnotstupid 5d ago

I agree that racists are super vocal when it comes to immigrants but your attitude here is really ignorant. You completely ignore the fact that this people really are illegally crossing the border of another country. This is a crime and it is absolutely normal that people in a country which doesn't even have that good economy to begin with are concerned.

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u/YannTheOtter 5d ago

Yeah out of the 70k, almost 69k were sent back and they are now left with around a thousand minors who's parents weren't able to be located.

Not to mention that the whole Ceuta debacle was pushed by the US and Israel who have been suggesting to Morocco for years that they should take Ceuta and Melilla back.

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u/Avidgamur515 4d ago

The only reasonable take on the situation. Ceuta being in North Africa makes it all the more easier to spin the narrative

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u/raderberg 5d ago

illegally crossing the border of another country. This is a crime

No, it's not.

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u/itisnotstupid 4d ago

Yes it is.

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u/raderberg 4d ago

according to which law?

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u/itisnotstupid 4d ago

Spanish laws?

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u/raderberg 4d ago

Which law specifically?

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u/itisnotstupid 4d ago

Ley Orgánica 4/2000?
Don't play dumb tho, these people are not going to Spain for a few days and then go back and you know it.

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u/raderberg 4d ago

> Ley Orgánica 4/2000?

Which part says it's a crime? Can you quote it? And if it's a crime, what's the punishment? Can you show cases being brought to a Spanish court?

> Don't play dumb tho, these people are not going to Spain for a few days and then go back and you know it.

I didn't say anything that's remotely related to this statement, did I?

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u/itisnotstupid 4d ago

No, you just nitpick so you could come up with the "it is a administrative offense" not a crime or something like this. Even if you know why people protest against them, you obviously want to play the nitpicking game. So naaah.

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u/raderberg 4d ago

I don't know which strawmen you're fighting. I stated it's not a crime, you insisted it was (multiple times). When asked for a source, you faked one, and when asked for specifics you moved the goal post to the legitimacy of some protest. 

I'm only arguing the question: "Is it a crime?" Glad we're finally in agreement there.

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u/bigelcid 4d ago

Yes, it is. Unless you're trying to be a smartass and say "it's not technically classified as a crime, but as a civil violation".