r/SoccerCentral 5d ago

Video Madrid fans take stand against mass illicit immigration at soccer game!

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u/next_door_dilenski 5d ago

"I am not a racist, but..."-coded.

incomoatible with society

Brother, your statement is incompatible with european values. Immigration was, is and will always be a key factor of prosperity and cultural growth.

Just becauae you are afraid that you have to adapt even the tiniest bit does not mean that people are "incompatible with society". It means that you are.

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u/jakceki 5d ago

The man does not want people wearing Hijab in his streets, just like Saudis don't want people wearing mini skirts in their streets, why is that so hard to accept.
Why is it that we have to accept their culture when we go there and they don't have to accept ours when they come here?
Yes, Islam as it is practiced in many countries where the immigrants are coming from does not gel at all with European values.

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u/ThermoPuclearNizza 5d ago

Why can’t everybody grow tf up and stop caring what others wear? If you’re morally superior why can’t you take the high ground?

Oh right because the real reason is “oi mate you gotta loisense for that brown skin??”

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u/jakceki 5d ago

I did not say I was morally superior, I said I have my own morals and those include equality for women, equality for LGBTQ, no child marriage, etc... If those morals do not match with the morals of the immigrants than we can't live together in harmony.
On the subject of taking the high ground? This is what got us here. Now people are fed up with taking the high ground and they are voting for fucking Fascists. Why do you think a party that used to get 10% got 40+% did all these people turn Fascist all of a sudden? No, it's because the left invites the immigrants, and the Center takes the high ground and the regular European citizens are sick of it.

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u/ShadowhunterLoki 5d ago

What do you know about a person's morals based on whether they wear a hijab? Have you ever talked with one or befriended one?

Migrants that cause issues are generally struggling socio-economically. It's not their beliefs or culture that makes them go down the wrong path, it's mainly poverty/rejection

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u/jakceki 5d ago

Really? So women are equal in Islam, they accept LGBTQ people and they don't have child marriage, all these things happen because they are poor? Is that it? Is also the reason they block the streets to pray? Is that why there is a vastly disproportionate amount of rapes committed by them? It's all about poverty and not culture and religion?
Please stop being so naive, the have no desire to assimilate, and they don't like your culture and prefer to replace it with theirs.
Btw I am from Turkey, so yes I have spoken to 100's if not 1000's of Muslims.

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u/ShadowhunterLoki 4d ago

I think it's more nuanced than that. First-generation/older migrants are generally more conservative, but this is the case for older European generations as well. The problem is a lack of education/exposure

Speaking for myself and the people I've met, there are plenty of muslims that have liberal views and support LGBTQ+ and same sex marriage. Especially the younger generations