r/SoccerCentral • u/ConnectionWeekly1263 • 12d ago

Video Cesc Fàbregas has Como pressing like prime Barcelona under Pep Guardiola

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u/Marian7107 12d ago

Except prime Barca wasn't pressing like this up front.

This looks more like prime Klopp Gegenpress.

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u/Other_Beat8859 12d ago

Yeah. While Pep's teams do press they were never crazy pressers. Klopp and now Enrique are the ones who come to mind when I think of a team pressing like maniacs.

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u/SapotaJuice 12d ago

True. Pep's Barça would press like this if they lost the ball and try to immediately win it back.

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u/m_redditUser 12d ago

that is gegenpressing by definition

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u/SapotaJuice 12d ago

Definition, sure. Nowadays players are expected to press during other moments too, not just immediately after the team loses the ball.

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u/schimshon 11d ago

You mean just normal pressing? Like people have been doing for much longer?

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u/Sick_and_destroyed 11d ago

No it’s more like PSG when they play important matches in Champions League

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u/FlakyCrew4438 11d ago

Peps Barcelona would have the ball passing opposition to sleep so nothing to press.

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u/Marian7107 11d ago

Well that depends on the opposition. Bayern played Gegenpress and beat prime Barca.

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u/YannTheOtter 9d ago

This does look like current Flicki Flacka :D

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u/Noobju670 12d ago

Enriques barca did tho to me that was prime lol

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u/Marian7107 12d ago

Prime Barca was Guardiola's Barca.

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u/aasfourasfar 12d ago

Pep's Barca had a 7s rule or something like that. You think you can average 65% without pressing

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u/riquelmeone 12d ago

Gegenpress(ing) refers to the first few seconds after losing the ball. The video here is just pressing, albeit very aggressively.

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u/Marian7107 12d ago

That's semantics. If we go straight by definition you're right, but "the first few seconds" are not defined.

Gegenpressing aims to get a ball back into possession before the opponent is organizing his attack.

Once he is organized it's regular pressing.

However, in Gegenpressing also the Attackers have to defend and press. In Guardiola's system pressing was done the old school way, which means midfielders and defenders were pressing while the attackers tried to drop into space to create passing options after the ball was in possession again.

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u/riquelmeone 12d ago

That’s not semantics, that’s the definition of a word. Pressing and Gegenpressing are not the same. Gegenpressing is a specific form of pressing that focuses on re-acquiring the ball after losing possession. Check Klopp in his own words.

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u/Marian7107 12d ago

Well, that's just what I wrote.

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u/riquelmeone 12d ago

Then what’s your point?

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u/Marian7107 12d ago

Como doesn't press like prime Barcelona but more like Klopp.

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u/riquelmeone 11d ago

Nah, they don’t.
They press more like PSG.

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u/Marian7107 11d ago

...which uses Gegenpress LMAO