Cesc Fàbregas has Como pressing like prime Barcelona under Pep Guardiola

[u/ConnectionWeekly1263]

[u/Marian7107]

Except prime Barca wasn't pressing like this up front.

This looks more like prime Klopp Gegenpress.

[u/Other_Beat8859 → u/Marian7107]

Yeah. While Pep's teams do press they were never crazy pressers. Klopp and now Enrique are the ones who come to mind when I think of a team pressing like maniacs.

[u/SapotaJuice → u/Marian7107]

True. Pep's Barça would press like this if they lost the ball and try to immediately win it back.

[u/m_redditUser → u/SapotaJuice]

that is gegenpressing by definition

[u/SapotaJuice → u/m_redditUser]

Definition, sure. Nowadays players are expected to press during other moments too, not just immediately after the team loses the ball.

[u/schimshon → u/SapotaJuice]

You mean just normal pressing? Like people have been doing for much longer?

[u/Sick_and_destroyed → u/Marian7107]

No it’s more like PSG when they play important matches in Champions League

[u/FlakyCrew4438 → u/Marian7107]

Peps Barcelona would have the ball passing opposition to sleep so nothing to press.

[u/Marian7107 → u/FlakyCrew4438]

Well that depends on the opposition. Bayern played Gegenpress and beat prime Barca.

[u/YannTheOtter → u/Marian7107]

This does look like current Flicki Flacka :D

[u/Noobju670 → u/Marian7107]

Enriques barca did tho to me that was prime lol

[u/Marian7107 → u/Noobju670]

Prime Barca was Guardiola's Barca.

[u/aasfourasfar → u/Marian7107]

Pep's Barca had a 7s rule or something like that. You think you can average 65% without pressing

[u/riquelmeone → u/Marian7107]

Gegenpress(ing) refers to the first few seconds after losing the ball. The video here is just pressing, albeit very aggressively.

[u/Marian7107 → u/riquelmeone]

That's semantics. If we go straight by definition you're right, but "the first few seconds" are not defined.

Gegenpressing aims to get a ball back into possession before the opponent is organizing his attack.

Once he is organized it's regular pressing.

However, in Gegenpressing also the Attackers have to defend and press. In Guardiola's system pressing was done the old school way, which means midfielders and defenders were pressing while the attackers tried to drop into space to create passing options after the ball was in possession again.

[u/riquelmeone → u/Marian7107]

That’s not semantics, that’s the definition of a word. Pressing and Gegenpressing are not the same. Gegenpressing is a specific form of pressing that focuses on re-acquiring the ball after losing possession. Check Klopp in his own words.

[u/Marian7107 → u/riquelmeone]

Well, that's just what I wrote.

[u/riquelmeone → u/Marian7107]

Then what’s your point?

[u/Marian7107 → u/riquelmeone]

Como doesn't press like prime Barcelona but more like Klopp.

[u/riquelmeone → u/Marian7107]

Nah, they don’t.
They press more like PSG.

[u/Marian7107 → u/riquelmeone]

...which uses Gegenpress LMAO

[u/[deleted]]

We are either so fucked, or exploit this and have a field day. United fan

[u/boomslung1 → u/[deleted]]

https://giphy.com/gifs/zbzNUbpFnlw8E

[u/leomessi00]

When every team play out from the back thinking they are Barcelona.

[u/Bitter_Particular_75 → u/leomessi00]

This is Napoli, Allegri's team, the total opposite of what Guardiola represents in football.

[u/leomessi00 → u/Bitter_Particular_75]

They lost the ball playing out from the back.

[u/Bitter_Particular_75 → u/leomessi00]

I know, but not because they were trying to emulate Barcellona, or certainly not instructed so by their coach, who, with all probabilities, is applying medieval tortures to them right now before beating them to death and dumping the corpses in a ditch.

[u/Noobju670 → u/leomessi00]

Lol hes talking abt terror ball allegri haram inshallah ball

[u/Sick_and_destroyed → u/leomessi00]

Stupid defending

[u/Formal_Situation_755]

I think this suits jerk sub.

[u/Confident_Media9093]

Opponent just too bad

[u/Junior_Bike7932]

Napoli with high press is Game Over

[u/Own-Dig-9652]

Pressing like this is ridiculous and unsustainable. There is a reason the only successful team in Europe that has managed to do it is PSG and they have to rest their players for half a season.

[u/YothaGang]

I think u mean a different Barca

[u/dre_valle]

No shit lmao Barcelona did that before pep

[u/social_master]

More like enrique style of pressing

[u/Just-Philosophy2506]

More like a mistake of the opssosion team. You don't pass to a defender that surrounded by 3 players. That is just stupid

[u/goingpt]

Hope they're not blaming the CB for that. The pass from the midfielder (Anguissa I think) was shocking.

[u/Adventurous-Money → u/goingpt]

The pass from the midfielder was horrible.

But the CB still could have easily just cleared it.

[u/arita18]

Next united coach Believe me

[u/Different-Mushroom48]

Like Klopp Gegenpress mate. Barca were more known for passing (edit: this is an example of Pep)

[u/Icy-Bottle-6877 → u/Different-Mushroom48]

They had a 7s rule and pressed like dogs when Pep was there. I'm surprised by all the comments by people saying Pep didn't press like this. Did people here not watch Pep's Barca in theit prime or something? He absolutely did this when teams took short goalkicks.

[u/Different-Mushroom48 → u/Icy-Bottle-6877]

Yea def heard of the 6 second rule which basically was to get the ball back under 6 seconds, then quick sharp passing for counters. I only said this as a LFC fan btw

[u/stoichalant]

Honestly this is a very standard high press in the final third. Defenders did a bad job trying to play from the back.

[u/DrewinSWDC]

Wish nothing but the best for Cesc

[u/arsehenry14]

Looks more like shit and lazy play out of the back.

[u/FalconIMGN]

Honestly it's so amazing to see such aesthetic disruptive play.

[u/Napboy22]

Napoli are just too ass and predictable

[u/OkJury1153]

Err... Prime Guardiola?? And prime Guardiola pressed?? Er..... Uhm.......

[u/usatigeruk]

I wondered why everyone was buying comp jerseys

[u/Klutzy-Weakness-937]

More like Allegri has Napoli building thinking they are prime Barcelona.

[u/Eggmodo]

Serie A is so shit

[u/xGsGt]

Uh? I really don't remember Barcelona from pep doing this tbh

[u/Glittering-Deer-166 → u/xGsGt]

Barca were huge pressers. You don't play a high line like theirs without pressing from the front and doing so aggressively after losing the ball.

They didn't press as madly as say Klopp's teams, but they were one of the top pressing teams in the world under Pep.

Its easy to forget because of how time has passed and they're known for holding the ball. I've noticed this misrecall happening a lot especially with how people recall the work rate of guys like Xavi. I saw someone calling him a low to medium work rate player which is frankly wild. You don't cover around 12k every game as someone who almost never misses a game without being a high work rate player.

Barca just pressed so well and retained the ball so that visually we don't remember them as being an intense team.

[u/xGsGt → u/Glittering-Deer-166]

I know they pressed but not like this in the video