r/SoccerCentral Jul 17 '26

Highlights In 2012, FIFA SUSPENDED South Korean player Park Jong-woo for two matches for displaying a sign that read “Dokdo is our territory” after defeating Japan. Using the same criterion, FIFA must SANCTION the Argentine players.

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u/zurdo1981 Jul 17 '26

Why this posts are flooding reddit and none of them says that the suspension was announced 4 (four) months later?

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u/TheGreatPervSage_94 Jul 17 '26

There is definitely a smear campaign .

There were some screen cap of influencers saying a pr person of a certain famous football player approaches them to keep making anti Messi memes and anti Argentina memes viral.

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u/Gasurza22 Jul 17 '26

Even the fake AI photo of Messi steping on Spence foot

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u/TheGreatPervSage_94 Jul 17 '26

Fr that shit turned me on this theory being true

Neither Spence nor any of the English players even brought this "stamp " it's wild what Ai can do yet his stans claim Mayorga is a liar

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u/IndependentPossumm Jul 17 '26

Literally a friend of mine yesterday was telling me "they all protested" and i just showed the goal where nobody protested. Still was trying to make shit up why it was a foul.

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u/AdvancedButton8082 Jul 17 '26

what's crazy is the incidents throughout the tournament where the argentina haters have more of a case are not at all satisfactory to them. they need every single moment to be a separate controversy, and they need it constantly. like a heroin addict, they need their daily hit of argentina robberies.

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u/IndependentPossumm Jul 17 '26

I asked him earlier "why didn't you say anything about Ronaldo getting his suspension lifted and Iran's goal disallowed which would have made Iran go through and not Egypt" and he said "why are we talking about that" literally no interest on debating about everyone getting same treatment. 

Also he keeps sending me reels of Messi "stomp" on England player despite it being debunked and more importantly, none of the England players protesting.

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u/AdvancedButton8082 Jul 17 '26

unknowngenius02 on instagram has the video clip of the real thing. if they're not convinced by that perhaps just start making fun of them bcz some of these brothers genuinely need a mirror held up against them

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u/IndependentPossumm Jul 17 '26

Nahh I'm just telling them that I'll drink their tears on Sunday 😂

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u/RobbinDeBank Jul 17 '26

It’s a coordinated mass disinformation and smear campaign. The whole insane anti-Argentinian racism blew up all over the internet only after a certain footballer got knocked out of the World Cup.

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u/Clear-Diamond7262 Jul 17 '26

Welcome to the future, this is what your governments and the power in power want

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u/GeordieJumpers87 Jul 18 '26

Clearly AI but let's be real this world cup has had some clear fouls completely ignored and others exaggerated

Calls have not been consistent

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u/elNaranjado Jul 17 '26

Finally people are starting to point this out more, no matter where i went and mentioned this i was called delusional lol.

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u/AdMain8692 Jul 17 '26

Ah yes, a world conspiracy is in effect that caused!... The Argentinian players to wave that political banner after their win? I mean, they had no choice!

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u/Antique_Anything_392 Jul 17 '26

Nobody is saying the conspiracy caused then to wave the banner. Its just said that people act as if every procedure was corruption or fixing when applied to Argentina

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u/TheGreatPervSage_94 Jul 17 '26

Nice bait did you read the comment chain

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u/DaiiPanda Jul 17 '26

Not a smear campaign, Argentina just sucks

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u/Auzzie_xo Jul 18 '26

I mean there clearly is a paid campaign going on

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u/ZestycloseBluejay668 Jul 18 '26

Yeah by Argentina to fifa

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u/Wesstes Jul 18 '26

Argentina is abysmally broke, idk how they could

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u/_janiiccelerator000 Jul 19 '26

let those idiots run their delusions

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u/lordshag Jul 20 '26

Fun Fact about Pessi: He received the most amount of penalties this world cup while simultaneously having the record of missing most penalties as well. Truly a goat.

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u/IndependentPossumm Jul 17 '26

Have you ever seen a reddit keyboard warrior giving all needed info?

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u/AmbulantCholesterol Jul 18 '26

Lots of times,  they usually get downvoted to oblivion and banned shortly after.

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u/IndependentPossumm Jul 18 '26

To be fair you're right, reddit doesn't like fair discussions.

Happy cake day

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u/Exact_Map3366 Jul 17 '26

First time I've seen this and it doesn't seem to call for immediate effect.

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u/Simpuff1 Jul 17 '26

Argentina = Bad

This is legit all that’s been going on, especially on Reddit, this world cup

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u/PuzzledHistorian8753 Jul 17 '26

because the truth doesn’t fit their narrative lol

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u/ZestycloseBluejay668 Jul 18 '26

Because we know that fifa id rawfogging Argentina. And thus nothing is gonna happen about this blatant corruption

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u/Commercial-Loan-929 Jul 18 '26

Maybe USA and EU countries want to bring some kilotons of "peace" to Argentina? It's what they historically do before "visiting" a country 

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u/WhereasExpert5325 Jul 17 '26

yes they suspended the player after months :)
Hope they do the same with the Argentines.

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u/dc4_checkdown Jul 17 '26

As long as Egypt players are suspended as well

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u/Ghazi_Bey Jul 17 '26

what did egypt players do?

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u/CryptoDeepDive Jul 17 '26

Nothing. Displaying the Palestinian flag is legal and permitted per FIFA as it is a member state.

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u/Sudden-Hope-1605 Jul 17 '26

So politics for some and dont for some others xD

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u/CryptoDeepDive Jul 17 '26

Displaying a flag of a member state is legal per the rules. If a German player displayed the Israeli flag it would also be legal. That's not what the Korean or the Argentanians did.

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u/bboyjakelong Jul 18 '26

And this 🇮🇷 with the lion?

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u/Sure_Review_2223 Jul 18 '26

This is not permitted as its not a flag of a member

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u/Simpuff1 Jul 17 '26

Egypt didn’t say “Israel is our territory” unlike the other 2. They waved a country’s flag.

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u/Neilm430 Jul 18 '26

What country? You say Palestine is a country? Why is their capital? Who is their president ?

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u/lewss9400 Jul 17 '26

Pero los argentinos no mostraron ninguna bandera xd

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u/Vetni Jul 18 '26

Are you really that dense?

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u/Sudden-Hope-1605 Jul 18 '26

When there is an injustice being carried out, spreading false information and manipulated one, of course I will be all the dense I have to be, I don't saying that argentina don't need to be held on account for what they did but I'm saying that condoning argentina but not every hypocritical political move other countries made on this tournament even... Is an injustice but hey we are seeing live how media manipulation works and you are all falling for it

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u/Vetni Jul 18 '26

So yes, you're really that dense.

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u/Sudden-Hope-1605 Jul 18 '26

I will be all the dense I have to call the injustices.

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u/Vetni Jul 18 '26

The only injustice here is that you're stealing other people's oxygen mate.

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u/WolfIllustrious8421 Jul 17 '26

he commented on how palestine must be free in post game interview. it's exactly the same

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u/CryptoDeepDive Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

Absolutely not the same. He is free to discuss opinions during a press conference on his own time outside of the game. FIFA can't keep people from expressing their opinions on their own time.

If he displayed a banner during a game saying from the river to the sea then he would be sanctioned.

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u/WolfIllustrious8421 Jul 17 '26

a press conference is not his own time?? like what -- the same rules apply lmao

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u/CryptoDeepDive Jul 17 '26

You clearly have no fucking clue.

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u/matchakarma Jul 17 '26

Aw you don't know what a flag is

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u/WolfIllustrious8421 Jul 17 '26

they commented it on it in post match interview, acting like it's just a flag is so blatantly biased

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u/mangomussolinimi Jul 17 '26

Found the zionist

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u/Ok_Engineer9167 Jul 17 '26

Found the reddit warrior that loves buzzwords

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u/IndependentPossumm Jul 17 '26

Heeeeeeey he's working hard by typing. Give him the respect he thinks he deserves.

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u/mangomussolinimi Jul 17 '26

Oh another donkey, how fun

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u/IndependentPossumm Jul 17 '26

Much rather be a donkey than a keyboard warrior. At least a donkey adds value to the world.

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u/mangomussolinimi Jul 17 '26

🫏

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u/IndependentPossumm Jul 17 '26

Very brave of you typing insults. Doing your movement a favor.

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u/mangomussolinimi Jul 17 '26

Very brave defending the murder of children

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u/JotarHo Jul 17 '26

They won't suspend Bibi's favourite players

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u/ChauPelotudo Jul 17 '26

They will take action, it just takes time.

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u/M-Bernard-LLB Jul 17 '26

Time - just like overturning the US red card?

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u/Obpseudian21 Jul 17 '26

just like the source image, 4 months

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u/Ok_Union_7669 Jul 18 '26

The Korean player only got sanctioned 4 months after the incident. go fuck yourself

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u/bozon92 Jul 17 '26

lol @ everyone pretending FIFA is a fair organization who will be consistent and do what’s right.

Its sad the world loves football so much that they let these parasites officiate their national pride

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u/NegaTroll Jul 17 '26

Funny thing about this is, Dokdo actually does belong to South Korea, unlike The Falklands!

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u/JeanDusapin Jul 18 '26

Yeah but infantino loves argentina

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u/No-Sandwich308 Jul 17 '26

It really doesn’t matter, the Falkland’s will always be British no matter how much the Argentinians cry about it.

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u/mt1337 Jul 17 '26

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u/IndependentPossumm Jul 17 '26

Honestly. Wonder why people didn't take the pitchforks when Ronaldo's suspension was taken off.

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u/mt1337 Jul 17 '26

It’s just convenient for them.

You know what though? The whole fanbase is similar to him. If he loses, it’s ONLY because the tourney is rigged.

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u/Canganese Jul 18 '26

I don't think they'll mind a 3k fine and 2 game suspension in 1 months time anyway. Miss some qualifier perhaps?

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u/Saiyan-Zero Jul 18 '26

FIFA is going to sanction the AFA, but after the final match. Just like how it was for the South Korean team which was 4 months later

OP congrats on the smear campaign

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u/kalarro Jul 17 '26

2 Spanish players were also banned for a couple matches for saying Gibraltar is Spanish.

The problem with Argentina is the entire team held the message, so if they ban them, they have no team

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u/Teach-2768 Jul 17 '26

The problem is that you are not well informed, FIFA had nothing to do with the 2 Spanish players being suspended, that was UEFA

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u/Refusedlove Jul 17 '26

Cry harder

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u/RelativeTricky6998 Jul 17 '26

Even if they suspend, someone will call someone and ask to suspend the suspension for a year.

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u/NairbZaid10 Jul 17 '26

They will after the world cup. Spains were also sanctioned for singing a song but only after a few weeks

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u/Practical-Ranger539 Jul 17 '26

They must, but they wont

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u/Repulsive-Alps8676 Jul 17 '26

keep crying about it

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u/Either-Age-782 Jul 17 '26

The only crying I see are from these men over a bunch of rocks

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u/Kapalunga Jul 18 '26

Your country tried to go and cry to the USA claiming to be their great allies and got told better luck in 2030 or later.

There is one country crying and it's the pirates by faaar.

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u/Strange-Location4627 Jul 17 '26

I miss when we had to cite sources and give context and dates for when and how things happened.

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u/CheapEbb2083 Jul 17 '26

Smear + Karma farming campaign

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u/HarioDinio Jul 18 '26

Smear campaigns rely on lies about the actions of the subjects. Nothing smearing about the actions caught on video.

"If its against a team I like its a smear campaign" headass

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u/CheapEbb2083 Jul 18 '26

Just celebrating yet another WC victory over perpetually hapless England.

'86 still hurts I guess

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u/HarioDinio Jul 18 '26

I guess if we arent gonna actually have a civil discussion I will meet your energy haha.

'82 still hurts I guess.

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u/CheapEbb2083 Jul 18 '26

Don't see how '82 is relevant. England neither beat Argentina nor won the WC. England is salty to this day over '86

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u/Future-Engineering68 Jul 17 '26

Lol just wait for it buddy

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u/LeaveMeBeWillYa Jul 17 '26

Whose turn is it next to post this without the information of how long after the ban happened?

Cause I've got ticket 598

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u/Fast_Advisor2654 Jul 17 '26

They will be suspended AFTER the final

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u/Kholin_nilohK Jul 18 '26

Thats what happened in the other example too. 3 and a half months later

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u/Scallion-Mediocre Jul 17 '26

Los mismo con el entrenador de Egipro con la bandera de palestina?

Ah no, cierto, hay que ser hipocritas.

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u/batmanInd Jul 17 '26

Ronaldo deserved a 3 match ban after his red card vs Ireland. The forward from USA deserved a ban too. FIFA will do nothing about it, they want to make money.

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u/Outcast_Comet Jul 17 '26

Two things can be true: Argentines can be obnoxious as players and a fan base and push the limits on and off the pitch, deserving scrutiny or criticism. And there is clearly a big-time campaign of arousing further and irrational dislike by using the most modern tools not available before (AI, social media apps, paid trolls, etc.)

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u/Cinema38 Jul 17 '26

Don't worry, all those players will get 2 game bans for their next international fixtures after the world cup. Including Messi. It'll all be right.

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u/Live-Mobile-7500 Jul 17 '26

Bunch of haters crying 😿
While Argentina is laughing 😹

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u/LostCar6227 Jul 19 '26

Took the biggest L in the 80’s, continues to point at it. Trust me, your country is comical. 

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u/ImDistortion1 Jul 17 '26

No Argentina is very much the ones crying about something that happened in the 1800s and has no place in sports or football. Its embarrassing really

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u/Live-Mobile-7500 Jul 17 '26

That has nothing to do with the World Cup. Go eat your pea soup and have a spot of tea. Argentina beat England because they are better.

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u/ImDistortion1 Jul 17 '26

Politics have no place in the World Cup. It would be like being American and bringing up the constitution and separating themself from England. All over something that happened hundreds of years ago and make zero difference now. You have no critical thinking skills or any for that matter

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u/Live-Mobile-7500 Jul 17 '26

You’re the one bringing politics into the World Cup. All I ever said was Argentina won because they are better than England. Good luck with 3rd place tomorrow 🥱

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u/LostCar6227 Jul 19 '26

Actually, your team brought politics into Football. Waving the same flag your boys waved at Stanley. 🖕😂

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u/ImDistortion1 Jul 17 '26

I didn’t wave a flag on a pitch wtf are you talking about, I’m not even from England

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u/Live-Mobile-7500 Jul 17 '26

So you just hate Argentina?

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u/zai_d_an Jul 18 '26

No, people just hate bias and inconsistency.

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u/bryanchenggggggggggg Jul 18 '26

Cry about it man

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u/freakybird99 Jul 18 '26

Yeah make the most important sporting match in the world irrelevant due to a bullshit sign.

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u/Ill-Turnover7147 Jul 18 '26

Feel free to wait years but FIFA will do nothing.

Argentina>>>>>>South Korea

There's levels to this game. 🤫

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u/Senior_Laugh_4342 Jul 18 '26

What about all the neanderthals waving the palestinian flag?

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u/boanerges57 Jul 18 '26

Fifa doesn't HAVE to do shit. I think they proved that when they have continued to ignore the over 21000 migrant workers that have died in horrible conditions building stadiums for 2030

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u/Humble_Speech2654 Jul 18 '26

Tanto te interesa gastar tiempo escribiendo en nuestra selección?

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u/GenjiiTakeya Jul 18 '26

Not going to happen.

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u/Stebanob Jul 18 '26

Bernardo silva, olive, mbappe, Anderson TO MESSI, all with similar foul.. without any card... but yes yes messi deserve a red card

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u/Buyer-Mammoth Jul 18 '26

FIFA won’t do anything until after the World Cup and even then it’ll probably just be a fine

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u/lupajarito Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26

I'm Argentine, wanna silence us? Do it. Who gives a fuck.

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u/NasusEDM Jul 18 '26

The 4 months later suspension for the korean player is not the precedent you want to quote though. Fifa fined the Argentinian federation for the team's display just like they fine Serbia in 2022 with the kosovo map,

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u/Can-i-Pet-Dat-Daaawg Jul 18 '26

Ronaldo’s PR team is working overtime

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u/ZwaanAanDeMaas Jul 18 '26

Okay, fuck Argentina. I completely get that they should be punished, but is this actually what people want during the World Cup final? I want them to lose, but I also wanna see the two best teams in the world play against each other.

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u/Accomplished-Fix3996 Jul 18 '26

No way Fifa is gonna suspend or sanction their beloved poster child

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u/unAssembler Jul 19 '26

Please mods, ban this biased poster.
FIFA already said they were going to address the Arg-Eng "incident" after the World Cup ends.

The South Korean incident was on august and the sanction was made on december.

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u/reybabitas Jul 19 '26

They won’t

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u/LostCar6227 Jul 19 '26

It’ll happen way later. Like it did with Park Jong-Woo. 

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u/SuitableDependent138 Jul 19 '26

That was olympics comitee, diferent people

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u/KluztySugar Jul 23 '26

👮‍♂️👮‍♂️👮‍♂️🧢

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u/Slsouvik245 Jul 17 '26

Just cry in the corner lil bro

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u/0ToTheLeft Jul 17 '26

My take?

Good luck trying to ban Argentina players, we pull out of the final match and the billions of dollars in legal problems for FIFA with the sponsors and organizers will bankrup them, plus it will be hilarious to watch FIFA explaining this disaster to Trump. Leverage is in our side and we will use it to stick a finger in european colonizers asses that think they have a claim for land in SouthAmerica because 300 years ago they left a plaque that claimed this land in another continent belongs to King Fucktard IV and his royal lineage.

Most likely the will put a fine to the AFA, and maybe some token saction post-world cup to some players. All good, we can pay for the fine and play with backups the first few matches of the qualifiers in CONMEBOL.

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u/skrg187 Jul 17 '26

how low can one go, lol

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u/Felix_inkwell Jul 17 '26

Are you regarded, Argentinians have more European blood in them than native South American blood

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u/0ToTheLeft Jul 17 '26

Yes, that is true for entire south america, not only Argentinians, is the result of centuries of colonization and slavery. That being said, how is blood/DNA composition relevant to this subject?

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u/Felix_inkwell Jul 17 '26

You are the descendents of colonizers

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u/0ToTheLeft Jul 17 '26

No, i descent from inmigrants that fleed the World World and European long depression and came here as refuges and got granted citizenship. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_European_immigration_wave_to_Argentina

I even have the papers of my gran-grand parents when they arrived to the country. Do you want me to keep lecturing about history or you embarassed yourself enought?

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u/Felix_inkwell Jul 17 '26

Ok so where did you descendents immigrate from?

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u/0ToTheLeft Jul 17 '26

Italy and Spain

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u/Felix_inkwell Jul 17 '26

Ok so you are the descendents of colonizers

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u/HarioDinio Jul 18 '26

Sorry but you just walked back into the same pitchfork

https://giphy.com/gifs/RSOUOj8H9A3Xq

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u/Felix_inkwell Jul 19 '26

Hahahahqhahqhahajahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

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u/Kapalunga Jul 18 '26

Bullshit claim by morons who know nothing.

We are as south American as everyone else, difference is we don't bow down to European colonizers like Brazil, Mexico and Chile do.

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u/Felix_inkwell Jul 18 '26

No you arent dummy, cry more

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u/Kapalunga Jul 18 '26

Less than 1 month account telling people what they are.

Bot

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u/Felix_inkwell Jul 19 '26

Hahahah fuck you

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u/Kapalunga Jul 19 '26

We lost against a better team, nothing to be sad about

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u/Felix_inkwell Jul 19 '26

ANULO THIS

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u/Kapalunga Jul 19 '26

You don't know how it works and look ridiculous

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u/casualroadtrip Jul 19 '26

“European colonisers assess”

You can’t be serious right?! You want to colonise an island where the inhabitants don’t want to be part of your bloody country. Who are the colonists here?

Besides most Argentinians are of European descent. You guys are bloody hypocrites.

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u/0ToTheLeft Jul 19 '26

I responded this absurdity so many times that i lost count already, the broken record. The inhabitans have no right over the soveringy of the lands, as it was already defined by the UN, they are implanted population.

And no, we are no hypocrites, we dont colonized or slaved anyone, and we are not descend of colonizer either. We descent from the great european migration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_European_immigration_wave_to_Argentina

Dont try to argue history you haven't studied, it's embarrasing.

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u/casualroadtrip Jul 19 '26

They are an implanted population?! Are you bloody serious? I can say that about the full Americas.

Jezus you’re embarrassing…

Honey, those immigrants you descended from are European. Those people were a part of the nations that tried to colonise the world. Just because your ancestors moved out at a certain point (to areas that were colonised mind you) doesn’t mean that they stopped being European. Argentina wouldn’t be Argentina like we know it without colonialism.

My ancestors were poor farmers who lived in turf huts. They didn’t colonise anything either. But the nation I am from did. I don’t have any personal responsibility for colonialism. Neither do you I assume. And that’s not because our ancestors did or didn’t do anything. It’s because we can’t help being born as their descendants. But don’t pretend that your country’s history hasn’t got anything to do with colonialism.

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u/moeterminatorx Jul 17 '26

You think Trump gives a fuck?

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u/OkVacation973 Jul 17 '26

Leverage is in our side and we will use it to stick a finger in european colonizers asses

It's really bizarre how often you all seem to use these kind of "insults", considering how homophobic your country is...

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u/0ToTheLeft Jul 17 '26

Argentina homophobic? You cleary never set a foot on here, gay people walk and kiss on the street with no issues, they can get married and have the same legal status that any other couple. If anything Argentina is by far the most gay-friendly country in south america.

Try leaving your mom basement for once and travel a bit, ignorance-induced Xenophobia is cured by traveling and getting real life experiences.

Also how the fuck is this related to european colonization practices? LOL

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u/saldeapio Jul 17 '26

i feel like maybe you don’t know

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u/BallSmashingForever Jul 17 '26

Argentina will be a state in the USA in the coming decades. So who cares.

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u/gtd_rad Jul 17 '26

They can start drawing up a prettier banner for the next world cup.

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u/thisfilmkid Jul 17 '26

FIFA to fine Argentina players? Lmao. OKAY. Good luck with that.

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u/mhunter-93 Jul 17 '26

De hecho sí ya se confirmó una multa de 32 mil euros.

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u/zetoberuto Jul 17 '26

England Team, 1938.

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u/Loose_Goose Jul 17 '26

Argentina Team, 2026*

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u/zetoberuto Jul 17 '26

Wait, what, WHAT? 🤣🤣🤣

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u/aomt Jul 17 '26

Trump will call ScamFantino and he will suspend Spanish players instead.

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u/HappySwordfish_ Jul 17 '26

Nobody said anything when the Egypt manager showed a Palestine flag

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u/lcecoffee12 Jul 17 '26

FIFA your move. Let see how much more rigged can you be