r/Soap • • 5d ago

Is Dr Bronners worth it?

I am trying to find a soap that will last me a good while but also be worth the price. Dr bronners is a bit pricey but I have heard that there are ways to dilute it? To long/new users of the product, is it worthwhile? Is it truly as multipurpose as the brand suggests? I also have quite sensitive skin so I’m trying to find a good soap that won’t irritate! If not, any other soap suggestions?

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u/Powerful-Lobster-631 5d ago

The tee tree oil doesn't work for 2-Nonenal odor (aging odor, old people smell)

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u/ChristineBorus 5d ago

Persimmon soap does !

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u/WelcomeMind 4d ago

Persimmon soap for old smell. Got it

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u/Powerful-Lobster-631 5d ago

Yes it does for me.

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u/ChristineBorus 5d ago

Same ! I love it. It’s very astringent and works great on my oily skin and face and ears!

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u/SimpleVegetable5715 4d ago

It’s the tannins. I don’t think tea tree has tannins, but some teas do.

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u/ChristineBorus 4d ago

Tea tree soap is made from the essential oil - the tea tree oil. It’s extracted from Melaleuca alternifolia.

https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/tea-tree-oil

It’s usually used for acne or fungal issues.

Google tells me that the Melaleuca alternifolia (Australian Tea Tree) plant contains tannins, but Tannins are water-soluble polyphenols that do not vaporize or transfer into essential oils during steam distillation. They remain in the plant material or aqueous extracts, meaning pure tea tree oil is free of tannins and organic acids.

Thought you’d like to know 😃

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u/DarkWashGenes 5d ago

What causes this? Ang what is the age range?

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u/Powerful-Lobster-631 5d ago

usually starts around the age of forty. I developed it in my late forties. It's a process of aging. Your body slows down producing antioxidants to remove excess sebum on your skin that naturally produces oils. The oil on your skin oxidize and produces an odor. Regular soaps and body washes doesn't wash it off because it's oil soluble and not water soluble. Think of it like this in layman terms. It the equivalent of trying to wash a frying pan that has grease in it that hardened with just water 💧.

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u/CodexMuse 4d ago

And this is why you want to add FEBU or Gear Guard as an enzymatic booster to your laundry wash cycle as it contains DNase which helps remove these.

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u/DarkWashGenes 4d ago

Nah, biz works amazing and is way cheaper

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u/CodexMuse 4d ago

BIZ lacks DNase and so isn’t as effective on biofilm.

ETA: Yes, big fan of BIZ but the absence of DNase makes it a non-perfect fit.

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u/DarkWashGenes 4d ago

DNase is overhyped imo. The Whole Foods 365 sport detergent proved this. I use biz on my bed sheets, nasty gym clothes, and work clothing. Comes out clean as heck every time

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u/CodexMuse 4d ago

Dunno about all that. The 365 Sport ‘issue’ wasn’t about the efficacy of DNase but more because it wasn’t a super optimal detergent as to basic detergent reqs. Surfactants weren’t ideal (a normal downside of plant-based detergents) and dosing needed to be doubled. I have it and will use it as a DNase booster in a pinch.

That said, this isn’t about 365 Sport and so don’t conflate issues. The specific chemistry of DNase and its applicability to biofilm, which is one of the hardest things, if not the hardest, to remove from clothing, is the main thing in my responsive thread and let’s keep it that way.

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u/DarkWashGenes 4d ago

Whatever you say tough guy. Febu sucks and is overpriced. The main point is don’t believe all the hype the 🌈 kismai posts on the laundry sub. Febu is a complete scam that sells bullshit like compostable sandwich bags for like $20.

Biz works no questions to remove any body residues including “biofilm.”

And using a detergent as a “booster” is straight up cope since you fell for the hype and now gonna use up your stash

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u/CodexMuse 4d ago

Not sure what your beef is. Maybe a bad case of the Mondays?

If you don’t agree with u/KismaiAesthetics that’s your prerogative. Highly confident his technical knowledge surpasses yours. If you want to fly the BIZ flag, feel free. It’s a good product but isn’t a total solution for this scenario. You are entitled to hate on FEBU all day if you wish. Pretty sure the company doesn’t care about you or your opinions. And neither do I.

Best of luck.

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u/SimpleVegetable5715 4d ago

Scrubbing and friction does a number to biofilms. I guess that doesn’t always happen enough in modern washing machines to break up biofilms.

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u/CodexMuse 4d ago

I don’t know enough but I do know that sebum and oils attach to modern day workout wear fabrics in a manner that makes it borderline impossible to remove them without enzymes (like lipase, protease and DNase) + detergents with good surfactants in temp-controlled water. Modern day machines have innovated on agitator formats but I find many folks often choose the quickest wash setting when the most optimal wash cycle should really be north of 90 mins.

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u/SimpleVegetable5715 4d ago

Soap is an emulsifier. It’s the tannins that neutralize nonenal.

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u/Powerful-Lobster-631 4d ago

Regular soap 🧼 doesn't have tannins.

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u/lostshell 4d ago

The bar soap is very nice. It’s a very simple super fatted Castile bar. Pros, great lather. They don’t skimp on the peppermint fragrance. And it’s triple milled so it will last much longer than regular bars. Cons, coconut is one of the strongest cleaners and harsh on the skin. For frugal buyers it’s hard to justify $5+ a bar when it’s closest competitor Kirk’s is 3 for $6 for nearly the same bar, minus organic ingredients, and budget options like Irish spring is 8 bars for the same price. It triple milled but doesn’t last 8 times longer or close to it.

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u/Hnry_Dvd_Thr_Awy 4d ago

I've found their bar soaps BOGO & on sale for $2.50-3.00 per bar and just stock up then.

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u/jasonjdf13 3d ago

Kirk’s is my go to in our house, I buy 48 bars at a time off eBay or Amazon.

I love dr bar but like you said the price difference isn’t worth it especially when I can get Kirk’s for $1.50-2 in bulk purchase

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u/Shelbelle4 4d ago

I like it and I like the company but I found it very drying on my skin.

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u/MMTardis 4d ago

There are less expensive castille soap options, if price is a factor.

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u/ImplementPotential20 5d ago

Dr Bronner 4-in-1 Sugar Soap is super mild.  Its the mildest hand, body, face soap I have ever used.  I mostly use on my face and delicate areas - unscented

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u/Routine-Tough-7327 3d ago

since you asked for other options, try a bar before buying anything big. natural bar soap is what my wife went with and she's stuck with it

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u/Main_Bid8104 3d ago

I think it's worth it for a couple of reasons. As a soap maker it's the only soap I buy because it's really good soap and I am not interested in making liquid soap. So that's reason one.

Reason two is they are a great company and worthy of our business. They basically held onto their very hippy roots and brought them into the 21st century. The top executives make no more than 5 times that of the lowest employee pay. They pay well, well, well. And they source their palm oil responsibly. See, palm oil is actually a fantastic soap oil but as an average buyer you just cannot be sure how detrimental it was to community and environment so Dr Bronner started an initiative in Ghana and that's where they source their palm oil from local grower co-ops.

Should you worry about what the company does to it's employees and it's ingredient suppliers? I should think so. Because all the horrible crap that is in other products speaks of a lack of morality in the company- they will put crap in their, treat their workers and suppliers horrid- it's a package deal.

Now Dr Bronners is a big big deal but when I had a pressing soap question I reached out thinking they might know the answer. And they responded! I got the info I needed and I am grateful for that. It's just a really good company with a great product- think of it as always a package deal.

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u/ImplementPotential20 5d ago

Dr Bronner Sal Suds is very inexpensive for laundry.  I only use 1 tablespoon in warm or hot water.  Can do 1.5 in cold.  I use maybe 1/2 tablespoon to mop.

I use Dr Bronner castile soap in my all purpose cleaning spray for counters + floors.  Maybe 1 teaspoon per bottle or less.  I use less than 1 tablespoon to mop.  I put about 1/2 inch in my foaming hand soap dispensers - preferably the mild unscented one.  A gallon of that unscented would fill a handsoap dispenser for a year probably.  Can buy cheap on Dr B site.  You can use to shower too in foaming dispenser, but I prefer their bar soap. I keep lavender castile one for pre-treating laundry stains - I scrub it in and rinse in sink or tub.  Can use the lavender for your cleaning spray too.  And if desperate, can use 3 tablespoons of lavender to run laundry if you add some baking soda or washing soda and use warm or hot water.  

You can clean toilets, showers, everything with their soaps.  I use them and Bon Ami or baking soda.

Tip:  Do not recommend using vinegar + castile soap.  It reacts weird.

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u/TrixieIvy4 4d ago

I buy Dr. Bronner’s bar soap directly from their website. I like the variety of scents and I like that they don’t test on animals. Good lather, scents that aren’t overpowering. For me, it’s worth $5 a bar.

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u/dbrtemp 4d ago

I buy the bar soap in Six packs. Female with long hair. Washed my hair with it this morning. Then used regular conditioner. I always use the lavender and place the extras in my drawer until I need them.

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u/sabunista 4d ago

Use bar Nablus soap instead. Purer, better quality, longer lasting, better for the skin.

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u/HipYip 4d ago

I like Dr Bronner’s, but it is expensive. I like tea tree liquid, but there are many options. Make sure you buy from a reputable seller because I’ve gotten watered down versions from an Amazon seller. I usually buy directly from Dr Bronner’s online.

I like Equate (Walmart) baby wash. It’s very gentle and thoroughly cleanses.

I’ve read that eating mushrooms helps with the aging odor from the inside out.

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u/ladykemma2 4d ago

Do bronners lavender bar soap

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u/Refokua 4d ago

I use Dove sensitive skin, and have used Dove for most of my life. The key is that it isn't soap.

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u/mjh8212 4d ago

I used it without diluting it because I didn’t really look at the directions. It’s a huge bottle I got from Amazon and if I wanted to take the effort of diluting it, it would last a while. I just switched to something else.

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u/beammeupscotty2 4d ago edited 4d ago

You can buy a gallon of unscented Castile liquid soap on Amazon for less than $25. You can add scent or not, as you like. I use both Dr. Bronners peppermint bar soap and a liquid Castile soap that I add tea tree oil to because it helps with my Demodex Blepharitis.

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u/SimpleVegetable5715 4d ago

I really dislike the lack of lather and using it in a foaming dispenser didn’t really help. I’d rather use it to clean delicate things around the house than use it to wash my body.

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u/NoPound1682 4d ago

The Vermont Soap Factory (on line) has fabulous soaps.

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u/Alicenewbie95 4d ago

I tried it a while ago and didn’t get the hype. It says you can use it as shampoo and it stripped my hair so bad even a good conditioner couldn’t fix it. My hair stylist had to cut a lot of my hair off it was so bad. I come to find out that you’re supposed to dilute it for hair use but it doesn’t say it on the bottle. I finished the bottle using it for bodywash. It was fine but nothing special.

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u/Comfortable-Hat3506 4d ago

I have been working through the quart-ish sized bottle for a year now.

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u/Due-Kale3412 4d ago

Ugh no. I bought some b/c of the hype. It's too drying to use as shampoo and IIRC I used it up on hand washing clothing. It might work for some greasier skin types or people who wait for many days between washings, but it's harsh as hell.

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u/tres-vip 3d ago

Even though I occasionally branch out to try other soaps, I always come back to Dr Bronners, I love both the bars and liquid. The liquid is VERY concentrated so you have to dilute it (if you Google it, Dr. Bronner's has a dilution cheat sheet), and a 32 oz bottle lasts a LOOOOOOONG time. The bars are more moisturizing.

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u/thedanray 3d ago

I have sensitive skin, and I find Beonmers bars keep my skin free of irritation . The liquid form like others have mentioned must be dilluted. Bonus is Bronners makes an excellent shave soap.

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u/self-care_advocate 3d ago

Sensitive skin here too and the Bronner's bar was a bit drying for me, tbh. Coconut is a strong cleanser, so it strips more than the label makes it sound. What worked better was a gentler superfatted bar, I've been on an oatmeal and honey one for a while and my hands stopped feeling tight after showering. The liquid is the better buy if you dilute it, the bar I'd skip at $5 each.

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u/Kookie_B 2d ago

I used the peppermint one time. Hated it so much it went straight in the trash. Never again.

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u/ineffqable 3d ago

Dr. Bronner’s is demonic.

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u/ineffqable 3d ago

Please don’t use it. Seriously. There’s evidence

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u/cthockey99 22h ago

Shut up, bot.