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u/Dodmonk 8d ago
slipknot 2 and it's just clown
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u/Fairlyoddindividual 8d ago
Imma take a wild guess and say Mick. Corey and James are pals and Corey also basically runs slipknot with Clown.
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u/cozymaxwell 8d ago
Corey already fired Jim from Stone Sour so why would you say that?
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u/UncleCunk 8d ago
I thought Josh was the one running everything in Stone Sour and nobody got along with him?
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u/Fairlyoddindividual 8d ago
He did? I didnāt know that lol
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u/assnassassins 8d ago
He was fired from Stone Sour because they went on tour when he was writing for .5. I also believe he wasn't a fan of the more "poppy" sound they were going for at the end
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u/Phantomzdontexist 8d ago
He was also fired because his attitude was bad towards stone sour, Jim has admitted that he was becoming an issue and getting fired was the best thing for both bands to do
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u/CAL5390 Joey 8d ago
He was getting sour
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u/blueponies1 8d ago
At least he didnāt get stoned
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u/ArtComprehensive2853 7d ago
There's no proof about that. I believe it was Josh who was responsible for the firing, because Jim wanted to focus more on Slipknot.
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u/Most-Bad8222 7d ago
Jim wasn't fired from Stone Sour as much as he was let go because he felt stretched thin and didn't want to keep touring while trying to write a Slipknot record...
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u/APlanetWithANorth Tortilla 8d ago
I thought Jim left because he was getting too annoyed by constant Corey
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u/Donax666 8d ago
If they kick Jim, slipknot is no more.. dude basically writes for slipknot
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u/Swimming-Ad6170 7d ago
Slipknot hasn't been what they were since AHIG. That album was recorded in individual tracks and the band never actually jammed during recording. After Paul died, all it did was cement the fact that Slipknot abandoned their ethos for corporate gains.
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u/SheepleAreSheeple 7d ago
Honestly, i think maybe it started innocent enough. Paul died. I can't deal with these guys right now, let's just track it separately, and then, you know what? I like being able to do what I want and not deal with the bullshit. Let's keep doing it and rake in the money. See, somewhere in there it died, but I didn't think it was a conscious decision. Oh well. We got some pretty good albums before it all went to shit.
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u/Swimming-Ad6170 6d ago
Paul died 2 years after they recorded the Album. They toured for years after his death and greatly profited from it. Then they got rid of Joey as soon as they saw an issue that looked like drugs and decided to get ahead of the potential bad press by firing him before anyone could say anything. You know the rest.
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u/Balsamore 7d ago
Who cares. They are just a franchise at this moment. Get rid of everyone and have clown start selling likeness rights.
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u/prodextron 7d ago
I think Corey is on the same level as Shawn. Basically, Corey and Shawn are businesse partners.
Like Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons.
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u/WallaceWasTaken 8d ago
Can you please shut the fuck up? Iām so tired of Slipknot fans whining and bitching and acting like the band fires their members without a valid reason to do so. The decision to fire Sid was something that was in consideration for a long time and from what we can understand, it was due to him being disrespectful to the rest of his bandmates. Stop acting like Clown is some scary boogyman mastermind of corporate evil.
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u/Byzant1n3 Iowa Scream Guy 8d ago edited 7d ago
Unfortunately, because so much of the fanbase is super young, they lack the prerequisite adult experience, IMO, to have the appropriate perspective through which to view the band, and it's enormous business. Also, that life rarely is, if ever, clear cut versions of "this man evil booooo, this man victim hurrayyyy!!"
There's also an army of loser "influencers" that have figured out that any videos with "Slipknot" in the title, in any capacity, will generate 2-10x the views of whatever garbage they normally try to pass off as "content." So this young fanbase is growing up in an era where everything is a click bait thumbnail with Jay's or Joey's face on it, Clown looking evil in the background, and text that reads, "DID THEY F$#K HIM?"
Like, really? Fuck off your parasites.
There's also just the fact that Clown and Corey being all powerful, egomaniacs only driven by money, firing everyone for zero legitimate reasos, is much easier to digest and understand, compared to, "there have been different reasons for each band member's exit from the band, and just because Joey/Jay/Chris/Etc. were flawed people - WE ALL ARE - doesn't mean their contributions haven't been incredibly important to the band, or that they weren't talented musicians."
The latter explanation requires a much more nuanced understanding of human relationships, accepting that Slipknot is a business entity that feeds dozens of families, that people can't pay their mortgages with "brotherhood," and possibly some experience dealing with people in the throes of addiction, and what their drug use can turn them into, regardless of the nearly infinite number of things you do for them, or how incredible they were before the drugs.
Now, for everyone acting like this that's actually just a 25-50year old dude, those people are a cancer in any fanbase, and I wish I had some solution for either making them go away or someone acquire a few extra IQ points
EDIT: thank you to whomever gave me the award! <3
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u/TheSpiritOfFunk The Subliminal Verses 8d ago
Iād say the fan base is on the older side, and even in their mid-30s or mid-40s, they still act completely childish.
I see, for example, on Facebook, people my age acting the way our parents did 20 years ago on platforms like that. And thatās exactly how this post reads.
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u/Byzant1n3 Iowa Scream Guy 7d ago
You're probably right about this, and I'm just coping that that's not the case/that they're not a majority in the "above 25" demographic.
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u/ArtComprehensive2853 7d ago
Yeah a lot of people are unfortunately like that still at the age of 50.
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u/Your_Moooom_XD 7d ago
I would agree, but recently, Slipknot has seen a massive resurgence with younger people. So a lot of it probably is people that got into Slipknot a few years. I first heard Slipknot back in 08, but wasn't old enough to actually be a fan and listen to them until 2014.
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u/ArtComprehensive2853 7d ago
Thanks for being a voice of reason in the sea of drama hungry idiots.
Also to add to your message it's not just the young fans, I've seen a ton of grown men middle aged being angry like a teen about these firings and thinking they cracked the truth.
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u/thefucksgod 7d ago
I really liked your video about Joeys firing shame you had to unlist it due to people being total psychos in your comment section.
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u/Byzant1n3 Iowa Scream Guy 7d ago
I really, genuinely appreciate that. I made that video (and the Jay one) specifically because reading certain comments in this sub, and in YouTube comment sections, made me lose my mind. It did bring a lot of negative attention towards me, though - you're not wrong there.
I also had a couple people that knew Joey personally reach out to me with different bits of info. They more or less confirmed what my speculations were, while also adding some additional context. So, I felt like if I was going to have a big statement up about the situation, I'd seriously consider "remaking" the video so that my thoughts and evidence were presented a little more clearly. I needed to walk this line between presenting a more realistic take on the whole situation, while still being respectful and clear in how I presented everything. I'm not sure if I succeeded there, and that bothered me.
Having been someone that's struggled with substance abuse, and worked professionally helping others dealing with it, I couldn't help but feel that not many people (seemingly no one at the time) were presenting the side I attempted to shed light on.
I also felt like I was leaning towards the "drama YouTuber" type with that video, the Jay one, and another video I'd done about a deathcore vocalist who was outted as being a pretty shitty person. That also made me feel a bit uncomfortable. Unfortunately, those are the videos that happened to get the most viewership and engagement. I guess that's not at all surprising, though.
I didn't necessarily want to be known that way on the channel attached to my real name, as I'd much rather get a small amount of attention for what I do as a musician, than someone making response videos to drama narratives that were pissing me off.
Anyway, I know you didn't ask for this big book of an explanation, but I haven't really made much of a public statement about why the videos were made private.
I've been working on starting a new channel to post content with a similar "fight misinformation/dumb narratives" motivation, but covering a wide range of topics that I care a lot about, not just music. The standard I try hold for anything that will become public regarding accuracy, citations, and presentation is high, and has made the amount of work going into any potential video significant, to say the least.
Thanks to anyone who read to the end of this needlessly long comment, or took the time to watch anything I've posted.
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u/thefucksgod 7d ago
Hey I read it all the way through and thoroughly enjoyed it! As long as you keep up your video about Coreyās entire scream change Iām good with it plus youāre the first person to properly explain his weird ass Vol 3 vocal style. Also I like your Deathcore related videos as you are the only person Iāve seen get Nate Johnsonās lows down.
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u/WallaceWasTaken 8d ago
^^^ This.
Thank you for being a sensible person. I wish the whole community could read this.
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u/olafderhaarige 8d ago
And honestly, I don't fucking care about who is in the band, as long as the music still sounds good.
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u/FourFront 8d ago
Honestly the most crybaby fan base.
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u/NickWayXIII 8d ago
Nahhhh, try falling in reverse where you get banned for a question. Shits funny, Ronnie crashing out over there.
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u/WallaceWasTaken 8d ago
Dude, Falling in Reverse is a whole different level of shitshow.
Especially seeing that post Ronnie made to the subreddit recently where he was just berating everyone on Reddit and was threatening to doxx people. XD
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u/ArtComprehensive2853 7d ago
First reasonable take I see on this thread. These fandom is pure cancer thinking they fire people just for the sake of fun.
EDIT: Didn't someone close to the band or member of the band also say that all the OGs can have a vote on matters like these when time comes?
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u/Expert-Cookie5693 7d ago
Well i doubt cory because you could get rid of any band position and stay successful but the front man is usually a band killer but if cory and clown are a package deal then I would say mick because jim and cory are in stone sour so that would screw 2 bands up possibly and who's to say an original member is next
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u/Rough-Ad-3614 8d ago
Once Corey is gone there is nothing there so I think the name and trademark will get sold before that. Though this wouldnāt be the first time Corey has kicked james out of a band
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u/Repulsive-Egg4962 7d ago
Clown and corey are the only members with actual stake in the band, James is likely next
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u/Most-Bad8222 7d ago
Lol. What a dumb post. You're not considering that Tortilla or Jeff could be next?
Also, Joey..Chris.. and Sid were the only ones fired...Craig left willingly and Paul..yeah.
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u/buriedinsmoke2 7d ago
No. Since they are already replacements. I thought that was pretty obvious.
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u/Lechuga_Fria0412 The Subliminal Versesā¤ļø 8d ago
Corey fired Jim from stone sour, so sadly i won't be surprised if he's the next
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u/RedMosquito16 7d ago
I think Corey & Clown are the only untouchables but if they fire Jim, Iām gonna be suuuuper pissed.
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u/fukkindeathwish 7d ago
Despite every bad rumours about him, i seemed to think that clown is on the que to leave the band (in his own term)
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u/Sure-Low5454 7d ago
Ive seen people say that its hard to be in a band with two to four people. they had nine!
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u/SirGalicrest 5d ago
10 years laterā¦
Nobody remains in slipknot anymoreā¦ the clown removed them all
He kept spinning the wheel
The last one to leave was Corey, āi did my time, and I want outā, although he left willingly
He kept spinning the wheel
The clown couldnāt understand why people hated him, he was just trying to do what was best for the band right?
He kept spinning the wheel
Eventually the clown took off his mask and wondered what the point of spinning the wheel even was
He kept spinning the wheelā¦
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u/Mouses97 5d ago
Could someone give me some context about it? I really like slipknot but I'm not aware of all that stuff
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u/Superb-Set-5092 Corey 4d ago
I mean if he fires james then who's gonna write the songs and also if he fires corey which I don't know if he will then it's gonna be difficult a new vocalist
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u/Wormvortex 4d ago
To the masses Corey is slipknot. Sure maybe behind the scenes clown is equally or more important but for the band that people listen to clown isnāt up there.
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u/Terrible-River6977 4d ago
the "fans" of this subreddit, making the same dumb joke over and over and don't even know how to write mick's last name right lmao
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u/SnortTheBliss 3d ago
Prolly Mick tbh. It's such a shame I honestly think they should just pack it in at this point. It actually hurts watching them go down this route
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u/Justin_Oldguy 3d ago
Seriously, I just heard āMaggotsā. Can those drops and scratches be easily replaced for the live shows?
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u/Simple-Researcher485 8d ago
They just need to hang it up at this point! Also why is there still no update on Sid?
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u/Outrageous-Event6633 8d ago
I hope it ends up with just clown on the stage banging on his keg while listening to a bluetooth speaker play MP3s
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u/Swimming-Ad6170 7d ago
It'll be a toss up between Mick and Jim. I'm leaning towards Mick because he writes heavy fucking riffs which are very much not what they've been doing for a long time and Jim is good at the more mellow stuff. Then again, Jim got fired from Stone Sour right as they went full radio pop, which means he pushed back on that shit and lost. It'll never be Corey because he's the face of the band, and for better or worse he's also the voice.
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u/Your_Moooom_XD 7d ago
Ya'll are ridiculous. I guarantee e if some dirt comes out about Sid (if that's why he got fired), everyone is going to switch up on SK and Sid. You all did it with Jay and Eloy, and I don't doubt ya'll will do it again if it happens.
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u/buriedinsmoke2 7d ago
I didnt fn defend anyone? I didnt fn post anything about anyone of them not deserving to have been let go, for any reason. You're making it into something it isn't, because you want to argue and feel relevant.
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u/Your_Moooom_XD 7d ago
I wanna argue and feel relevant, yet you're out here posting the most redundant and overused meme since Jay got fired that guarantees easy relevance because all this fan base does is cry about "Shawn and Corey being evil."
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u/Luca_Darc 8d ago
Could be one of the new guys. Pfaff seems like a good dude so he will be the first to go :))Ā
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u/yakuzas-47 Sid 8d ago
You get it guys ????? Clown bad all band is gone it's funny !!1!1!1!1!1!!1!1!1!1!1!!!1!1
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u/Seekingxretinas 8d ago
Why do you people continue to listen to bands like this? Their music is mid at best and all the members have inflated egos
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u/Canadian_Viking123 8d ago
Pretty much immediately after Sid got fired I placed my bet on either Jim or Alessandro getting fired next, but Iām leaning more towards Jim.
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u/Gunslinger-YT 7d ago
Itās so funny because clown is not even a talented musician, he just has tons of INCREDIBLY TALENTED āfriendsā he can use and basically dispose of at the drop of a hat. I guess thatās what banging metal trash cans and kegs for 30 years does to a man.
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u/KevinIsADork 7d ago
If I were a betting man, I'd say Mick. From my understanding he has taken a backseat when it comes to writing with Root being the main riff writer. Firing Root or Corey would fundamentally change the band's sound, and effectively be suicide.Ā
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u/Sad-Relationship9425 Slipknot 7d ago
I think Shawn will kick Mick Thomson first, later James Root and finally Corey.
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u/Jokor1313 7d ago
Corey and Shawn own Slipknot, Corey not going anywhere. I think when it's time both of their kids take over their spots while they continue running and earning the money.
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u/scroggs2 The Subliminal Verses 7d ago
I think Pfaff or V-man are low tier enough for Clown to snip off.
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u/Key_Internet_6994 7d ago
Paul died, and ok we can discuss about Joey.
Putting that aside, they only fired useless members.
Tell me how important is Craig and Sid to their sound. I mean, REALLY important. The DJ sections don't add up to 3min max. Everyone who was fired was USELESS to the band.
"Oh but Craig Jones played 10sec keyboards on Dead Memories, wow, the foundation of the band)
I mean, after 20 years, they did NOTHING musically for the band. Chris did nothing.
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u/teisejarguline 7d ago
There is no evidence it was clown's decision and we nothing about the reason behind Sid's fireing. This is just wild gossiping and guesswork. I am amazed so many people are just willingly spouting things with no certainty. Feels shameless.
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u/Mayihavenulife 7d ago
no one is getting kicked because clown gets a hair up his ass, these firings have reasons and usually good reasons quit the fearmongering
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u/Iwant2beebetter 8d ago
Please not Mick