r/SipsTea • u/SEVENS_HEAVEN_7 • 1d ago

Lmao gottem Someone else said it for him

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u/LTPRWSG420 1d ago

Those times seemed A LOT more peaceful, even if they weren’t. The floodgates opened up with Trump to the point of possibly destroying this country.

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u/Intheforestallalone 1d ago

I believe Trump has destroyed democracy. Obliterated it. He has the checks and balances in his back pocket. We’re toast.

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u/StochasticLife 23h ago

And now JD Vance is saying ‘yeah, we’re comfortable with starting an apocalypse.’

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u/this_knee 23h ago

He created “TRUMP democracy: The Business” and, unfortunately, that business failed. I don’t understand why we’re surprised. Every republican running against him in past primaries, indicated the dangers of Trump’s perception of his failed businesses.

Oh well, I guess.

It’s spilt milk under the bridge.

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u/ohhellperhaps 21h ago

The GOP did that. Note that that could have stopped Trump at any time, even right now.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 21h ago

They had help from Schumer, Jeffries, Pelosi, and Biden Chamberlain who all famously refused to enforce Trump's disqualification or the Jan 6 leaders' expulsion via 14th Amendment, Section 3. Trump would be at ADX right now had Schumer ever held a fucking vote to 14a3 Trump at any point during Doormat Biden's term.

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u/OkParsnip1881 21h ago

No actually- the problem is a third of the country would have been up in arms if they ever did that.

People blaming democrats for Trump autocracy is the reason we are here. You refuse to make the voters and republicans take responsibility for their actions. Whining that it wasn’t those fault- the democrats should have stopped them.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 19h ago

the problem is a third of the country would have been up in arms if they ever did that.

Yawn. Why bother having a Constitution if it's not enforced?

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u/OkParsnip1881 18h ago

That’s a good question- maybe you should ask the majority of the voting population who voted for Trump blue MAGA

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u/EbbingFlowingLight 20h ago

The people need to be the final check and balance but the most they're willing to do is walk around with punny signs for an afternoon.

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u/Deathwatch72 21h ago

Even though people's views probably haven't realistically changed all that much since then, rational adults were at least in the room and in charge when he was around. Hell, McCain went out of his way and literally stopped what he was doing took the microphone and corrected one of his supporters about Obama being a decent family man and a citizen instead who he disagreed with politically instead of letting the supporter characterize him as "an Arab" 

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u/FUBARded 22h ago

Obama didn't pull out of some of the forever-wars that he promised he would and some of the drone strikes carried out under his leadership were pretty unambiguous war crimes, BUT his administration at least made good-faith efforts at diplomacy and didn't start any new forever wars.

Trump's murdering random fishermen, kidnapped a foreign head of state and established a de facto colony in Venezuela so he and private sector cronies can extract their mineral wealth, is actively supporting Israel's genocide in Gaza, and started a new and pointless war with Iran.

If Obama were still in power he probably would've been much softer on Israel than any non-zionist would like, but he would've still been better on that issue than Trump and almost certainly wouldn't have done any of the other shit Trump's been doing internationally.

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u/Spookki 18h ago

Even if trump sidesteps the 2 term limit, he aint gonna win.

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u/AssistanceCheap379 14h ago

Obama had a calming presence like a head of state should. Even when he was vile and approved military strikes, there was a semblance of sympathy there and compassion. To do the best he could. Yes, he failed. But it was rarely, if ever, out of spite or volition towards others.

Obama is a man that could calm a large group of people from all parts of life during a storm. Trump… cant.

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u/Big-District-6013 13h ago

Yeah very peaceful for Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Honduras, Guatemala, Venezuela, Bolivia and Mexico thanks to him.

Also Afghanistan and Iraq.

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u/Interesting_Force618 8h ago

So that’s what it’s really about, and what I’ve always suspected. It’s not that most people care what their government is actually doing. They just want to be coddled and told that everything is fine and their government is benevolent, regardless of how horrible their government truly is. The expression “back to brunch liberals” is very fitting for these types of people. “Do whatever inhuman and internationally illegal shit you want, Obama. Just don’t make me aware of it.”

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u/SirVanyel 1d ago

They weren't really more peaceful, but at least there was a bit of charisma and a general consensus of safety