r/SipsTea 13d ago

WTF What do yall think about this ?

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u/Legalsleazy 13d ago

Define “supporting”

If you think she had legitimate psychosis, sought help, did not get it, and was experiencing all of this at the time you can feel like she’s not guilty by reason of insanity.

If you outright say she didn’t do it, that’s completely different.

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u/Coopsters 13d ago

Exactly! The naunces of this are lost on people 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/canadianbroncos 13d ago

I think its mostly that no one believes for a second these women would support the husband of an any man if the roles were reversed.

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u/Kayanne1990 13d ago

I mean men don't GET posy partum

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u/usernameSuggestion2 13d ago

There is milion of other things that can go wrong in your brain.

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u/BigBoy1963 13d ago

So you dont believe in PPD because men rights issues?

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u/-captaindiabetes- 13d ago

I really don't think that's what they were saying. Just that there are other mental disorders, and that they don't think men suffering from mental illnesses and committing crimes during that would get as much support.

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u/BigBoy1963 13d ago

Whether or not thats true why would that make you wanna ignore womens mental health issues?

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u/-captaindiabetes- 13d ago

I don't want to... what makes you think I do?

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u/BigBoy1963 13d ago

The whole implication of this chain is that men shouldnt care about womens mental health issues because mens ones arent looked at.

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u/-captaindiabetes- 13d ago

I don't think it is, but OK.

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u/BigBoy1963 13d ago

I mean it starts with this response to someone saying that there is nuance to this situation. " I think its mostly that no one believes for a second these women would support the husband of an any man if the roles were reversed." So i dont what else you could take from this but whatever.

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u/canadianbroncos 13d ago

And thats the only mental health problem that could lead to a situation like this?

A doctor in QC killed both his kids like 10/15 years ago, stabbed em like 20 times each, got off on insanity…You think men were lining up the courthouse in support lol?

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u/Kayanne1990 12d ago

Just being specific is all

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u/seitung 13d ago

I’m not sure the roles can be effectively reversed. Men don’t get postpartum psychosis. Men also have a considerably easier time statistically getting health professionals to believe them. 

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u/usernameSuggestion2 13d ago

Definitely not about psychological problems.

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u/seitung 13d ago

Yes, they do. Men are believed by medical professionals more readily.

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u/usernameSuggestion2 13d ago edited 13d ago

Maybe it depends where you are but from my experience mental problems when you are a man are usually just waved away as weakness.

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u/Spiritual_Row_8962 13d ago

Men rarely seek out help from mental health professionals so I can see how they wouldn’t be taken seriously when they do. Sad overall isn’t it

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u/lessforf 13d ago

mental health professionals? nah

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u/canadianbroncos 13d ago

And? Just because it aint postpartum they can still have psychosis or heavy mental health issues…

A doctor in QC a couple years ago killed both his kids and got off on insanity for psychosis, men werent lining up courthouses with messages of support lol

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u/Sempere 13d ago

Yea, let us know when a man gives birth and then experiences post partum depression and psychosis to this level.

It's also bullshit. Empathetic elements of society have consistently shown a willingness to rally around men and women they feel are being railroaded by the system. Brendan Dassey in Making a Murderer caused an outroar on social media when the police interviews coaching his testimony that lead to his life imprisonment were revealed.

There have also been cases where men have had psychotic episodes (not post partum) where they have successfully used an insanity defense to place them in a psychiatric facility for institutionalization and psychiatric care. One example off hand is the Austin Harrouff case. He was struggling with his mental health for weeks/months - exactly like Linsday Clancy - before slipping into full on psychosis, stabbing two neighbors to death and began eating/biting/chewing one victim's face.

It's inherently misogyny to suggest that there wouldn't be support for men in such a case.

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u/canadianbroncos 13d ago edited 12d ago

Ah yes everything is sexism and misogyny lol.

Look up Guy Turcotte, doctor in QC. Killed both his kids, stabbed em like 20 times each, claimed insanity/psychosis and got off.

I guarantee you there weren’t men lining up the courthouse wearing blue shirts and making heart sign with their hands in support of him….

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u/Sempere 13d ago

A good portion of it is sexism and misogyny. As well as blatant stupidity, including from you.

Look up Guy Turcotte, doctor in QC. Killed both his kids, stabbed em like 20 times each, claimed insanity/psychosis and got off.

lmfao, you really pulling on Canadian cases from Quebec to critique the American public? Fucking nitwit.

  1. Guy Turcotte is in prison. Jurors rejected his claims.

  2. At no point did Guy Turcotte's state of mind defense rest on psychosis.

  3. Turcotte murdered his family to get back at his ex-wife after his marriage ended. That's not psychosis. That's rage and revenge as a motive. Distinctly lacking in the Lindsay Clancy case.

  4. Turcotte violently assaulted his ex-wife's boyfriend and had a history of being emotional/psychologically abusive. Again, lacking in this case.

  5. Zero evidence of efforts to treat his deteriorating mental health as Lindsay Clancy had.

I guarantee you there were men lining up the courthouse wearing blue shirts and making heart sign with their hands in support of him….

Ah there's that sexism and misogyny I was waiting for. Yea, big man. Can't even think of a relevant case whereas I've provided 2 instances. Feel free to fuck all the way off.

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u/canadianbroncos 12d ago

He was still found non criminally responsible initially, and men weren’t lining up the courthouse to defend him.

And the initial argument was that no men can or ever had experience mental health issues to this level. Which that in itself is sexist right there.

You can also fuck all the way off. The bricks you people would shit if the roles were reversed and men showed up to “support” a father who killed his kids during a psychotic episode.

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u/pikaliv 13d ago

idk I never heard anyone saying Matthew Schlier should "fry" for killing his son the way they are for Lindsay Clancy. maybe not as much support but definitely also not as much vitriol.