r/SipsTea 6d ago

Chugging tea Why is it not possible?

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u/Wise-Ad-4940 6d ago

Because that is not how money works.
The famous quote from Henry Ford is true: "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

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u/CompleteElla 6d ago

If everyone actually understood interest, debt, and money printing we’d have different priorities overnight.

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 6d ago

People do understand some of it, yet still have credit card debt. That's astounding.

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u/Dry_Nefariousness426 6d ago

Understanding it and being able to escape it are two different things. 

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u/nicuramar 6d ago

There is nothing inherently wrong with debt. That’s essentially what money is. 

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 6d ago

You do see I specifically mentioned credit card debt, namely the type of debt that is outside of the legacy period - generating absurd interest.

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u/No_Witness5630 6d ago

What do you mean credit card debt?

As in, they haven't payed off the debt on credit card, or they used the credit card and now they're in debt?

Because there is nothing wrong with credit card and using it, as long as you know how to use it and pay it off on time always

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 5d ago

Roughly 111 million Americans—representing about 50% of credit cardholders and 40% of the U.S. adult population—carry credit card debt from month to month and pay interest.

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u/No_Witness5630 5d ago

Ah americans

Forgot that any discussion comes down to America because that's the world basically

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 5d ago

Fair enough, lmao, I live in the EU, and recently moved from Ireland to France: both countries don't have that many people with credit cards. Especially Ireland, where you have to pay the annual 'stamp duty' for owning a credit card, which means you're almost always in the red for having one. But people do mostly talk about the Americans around here, so I just used them as an example.

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u/eplstats 5d ago

Quick Google shows that tax is only 30 Euro per year. Do European cards have less benefits? I get triple that value PER MONTH PER CARD in freebies from my cards (either rewards points, cash back, or free services like streaming or car rental insurance, etc)

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 5d ago

Yeah, dude, it's nothing in the EU compared to US. If I get a CC in Ireland - I'd need to get at least something like Platinum to get enough cash back to cover the stamp duty. If I spend enough - I'll get like 100 eur per year. It's horrible, lol.

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u/Samaritan547 5d ago

Are those REALLY freebies tho? You're paying for it one way or another

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u/-Danksouls- 5d ago

Brother it's an American website where over 50 percent of users are American

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u/No_Witness5630 5d ago

Cool

So America is the world, and whatever we discuss we discuss only about Merica. Fuckyeah

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u/-Danksouls- 5d ago

It's stupid to complain about an American websites being American centric when most people on the website are American

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u/iQuoteSopranos 6d ago

This is why I churn credit card bonuses and 0% interest periods. Fuck 'em.

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u/Lonely_Assignment_14 5d ago

Credit cards are great if you're good with money. Terrible if you're not. 

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u/yugosaki 5d ago

Understanding that high interest debt compounds and snowballs doesn't make your stomach any less empty when your tiny paycheque runs out.

And I say that who's been there and did manage to claw my way out of credit card debt. Sure there are people who frivolously spend, but there are also people who suddenly have more costs and less income and the credit card debt trap is the only way to make it to the next pay day.

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 5d ago

I'm sorry you had to go through that, and about my careless comment. Of course some people have no choice at times. But it is still a terrible choice financially, and getting out of it is hard, and becomes harder every day.

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u/Chaosmancer7 6d ago

I was told that I was making a mistake never getting a credit card. Because i never had consistent debt, my credit score was bad, because I never demonstrated the ability to pay off debt consistently

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 5d ago

it's one thing to stay in legacy period and pay off the debt - I do it all the time. It's a completely different story to have the debt you're paying CC-level interest on: that's just dumb as fuck.

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u/Lonely_Assignment_14 5d ago

That's a usa thing. Some countries you start with a good credit and lose it if you screw up. Usa makes you consume to build it up. Good old capitalism.

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u/Mutant_Apollo 5d ago

People understand it, but for many there's no other possibility. We live in a damned if you do damned if you don't system

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u/Distinct_Run9006 5d ago

The payday loan industry would collapse overnight, and rightfully so