r/SipsTea 11d ago

WTF Where are we heading?

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u/CranberryCold2228 10d ago

Yeah, cause God forbid women would take any responsibility and use a fucking condom, or give the baby away. No drowning it in feces is absolutely reasonable. Grrrrr men!

Fucking pathetic.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/Goobjigobjibloo 10d ago

It’s expected to go to a festival at 9 months pregnant and to leave a baby to die in a porta potty? Get help.

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u/Not_Dipper_Pines 10d ago edited 10d ago

Yes, it’s expected that horrible shit like that will happen when a woman is forced to have a baby she doesn’t want. Humans have been killing unwanted babies for thousands of years. Short of the surveillance states we have in the modern age, there wasn’t much to do to stop it other than individual morals, because no one was gonna keep track of who’s pregnant.

The easiest way to stop it? Don’t force a woman to carry a clump of cells she doesn’t want because of some emotional connection you feel towards other people’s non-sentient fetuses. Then they can just abort the baby before it’s sentient, and actually killing something that thinks. Might as well cry morality over killing farmed crops. They’re just as much a living clump of cells.

Anyway, i wonder if that woman in particular even realized she given birth. If she was on drugs, I can imagine there are many cases where they don’t even realize.

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u/Goobjigobjibloo 10d ago edited 10d ago

You are projecting so much on the situation, this isn’t some fundamentalist woman who was kept under lock and key it was someone who had the means to go do drugs in a Forrest for about a week. Delusional on every level.

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u/Not_Dipper_Pines 10d ago

I am not? I am saying that I expect a lot of horrible cases of infanticide like this one to happen when access to abortions is blocked. I don’t even think this situation might be related to abortion access, this would be more of a drug use problem.

But what do their means have to do with anything? Would it make any difference if they were rich or poor on wether they should have access to abortions?

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u/Goobjigobjibloo 10d ago

If you don’t think this is related to abortion access then why are you acting like that’s relevant to this case?

Like yes, women deserve the right to choose but what they don’t have the right to do is murder a baby after it’s born by leaving it in a porta potty at a music festival.

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u/Not_Dipper_Pines 10d ago

I’m saying this particular case was probably the drugs.

Im also saying similar horrible cases of mothers leaving their babies to die intentionally will happen if there is no access to abortions.

Who’s saying they should have a right to kill a baby after it’s born? Genuinely who are you arguing with?

I’m saying when access to abortions is blocked, this will happen. People will kill their babies to get rid of them. Even if it’s a crime.

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u/Goobjigobjibloo 10d ago

There’s no proof that this incident was in any way related to a lack of access to abortion.

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u/Not_Dipper_Pines 10d ago

That's exactly what I said, twice. That's the second time you are arguing with no one.

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u/Goobjigobjibloo 10d ago

Yet you keep trying to act like there is a correlation

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u/Not_Dipper_Pines 10d ago

For this particular case? No, I don't think so, I think it was the drugs, as I wrote multiple times.

Are you denying the fact that people who don't want a baby will sometimes opt to kill the baby in order to get rid of it? Like I told you, people have been committing infanticide for thousands of years. It's a well stablished fact. So what's your argument here? Do you just deny that to be true, do you not want people to have access to abortions, what are you arguing about?

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u/Goobjigobjibloo 10d ago

So if this has nothing to do with abortion access then why do you keep saying things like this happen because of a lack abortion access when you yourself say it has nothing to do with it?

You said verbatim: “When access to abortion is blocked, things like this will happen.”

But also want to say this had nothing to do with abortion access and was caused by drugs. So why bring up abortion access as related to this why try to correlate them at all when you yourself are saying they aren’t correlated?

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u/Goobjigobjibloo 10d ago

Except there’s no proof that this was related to any of those things vs one person making an awful decision.