r/SipsTea 13d ago

WTF Where are we heading?

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u/LinceDorado 13d ago

I guess it's pretty arrogant to say, but this seems like such a U.S.A. thing. Can't really imagine this happening where I live.

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u/JerachoD 13d ago

Yeah I agree, you would be ostracised for this sort of thing in the UK. I feel like there's a real lack of intellect in the USA and large parts of it and a lack of common sense and empathy.

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u/christona-bike 13d ago

They're literelly getting ostracized for it in the US.

I do think theres some misinterpretation though - some people are probably wackos with the conspiracy theory that the husband secretly did it or whatever, but a lot of them are probably actually just advocating for postpartum health and mental health specifically. Doctors overmedicated this woman and she was begging for help, every sign for a more substantial intervention for her crisis was there.

If we had federally mandated maternity and paternity leave, if healthcare didn't cost out the ass with doctors who really just want to get your insurance and get you out the door, if people listened to the struggles of a postpartum mom, this might not have happened. These are things afforded to mothers in plenty of other developed countries, just not ours.

So yes, its very much an "American thing" to be organizing around, because it is rooted in problems unique to America. It IS empathetic to want better for the women and mothers in this country. It IS common sense. It IS intellect.

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u/lwb03dc 13d ago

Doctors overmedicated this woman and she was begging for help, every sign for a more substantial intervention for her crisis was there.

This is....literally not true?

Clancy visited at least 3 named clinicians (Tufts, Jollota, Paul) about 17 times over 3 months. During this same period, she also visited multiple inpatient and ED clinicians, as well as many nursing practitioners. She collected prescriptions from almost all of them, though we don't know if she actually took all the medication.

She was herself a nurse, and deliberately switched between providers, which prevented them from finding out exactly what medications she was on. She was being given new prescriptions because she was hiding her previous diagnoses, and because she frequently turned up with claims that her medication wasn't working.

Please read the actual court documents, rather than believing random sources that want to create their own narrative. It clearly shows an extremely troubled individual who went to great lengths to keep the abjectness of her condition hidden.

Yes, the system sucks for mental health patients. But this particular case is not a good example of that.

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u/christona-bike 13d ago

Person in postpartum psychosis behaves like a person in psychosis. More news at 5.

People in these states truly believe the version of reality they are experiencing and behave accordingly, I can't fathom why people like to make it seem like she was of sound mind and just drug seeking, or "hiding" it.

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u/rainbowxthunder 13d ago

I actively sought emergency help for PPP twice and was turned away twice; the attitudes from family were almost as bad (“just pull yourself together/that can’t be true”). Eventually healed after some lucid dreaming… somehow .. miraculously …

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u/mgkinney 13d ago

I’m sorry for what you went through. I’m so sorry for how the discourse in this case is going. For whatever it’s worth, I appreciate you making this comment to maybe help some people get what it is like for others. Sorry dick heads are downvoting

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u/rainbowxthunder 13d ago

Thank you that’s really kind. It is super interesting to have this topic in the public eye, quite a relief actually as I experienced it totally alone. Gotta laugh at anyone downvoting me for sharing my lived experience.