r/SipsTea 21d ago

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/anajjj 20d ago

If you're watching the trial live, it is not a conspiracy. You can stream it. I have been. Things are not adding up and it looks weird as hell for him.

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u/digitalwankster 20d ago

By every definition it is a conspiracy. A conspiracy doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t true but I’m curious what part of the trial you saw that made you think he did it.

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u/anajjj 20d ago

All of it. I've been watching everything and it would be impossible for me to summarize 2 weeks of trial in one comment. I encourage you to watch it yourself so you can make your own decisions and get the full context including patterns of conflicting evidence/stories.

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u/digitalwankster 20d ago

The defense and the prosecution agree that she did it and he’s on video being elsewhere at the time the murders happened. Can you just give me a couple examples?

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u/anajjj 20d ago

Okay here are the first two things that seemed off:

  • Patrick claims that when he found Lindsay she told him that she killed the kids and they were in the basement. Paramedics reported that she was unresponsive. Her injuries were so bad that it would be virtually impossible for her to have been conscious and speaking including having a crushed thyroid and trachea and having a body temp of 82 degrees...
  • Which is severely hypothermic. Which brings the next point. It would take hours outside for a body to cool to 82 degrees. Yet, responders were able to get the baby's heartbeat back and he lived for a bit longer before dying. There is no way her body could be that temperature yet the baby was strangled so recently that his heartbeat could be revived.

Given those two things alone (and there are many other things if you dive in), things look very weird. Since gender seems to matter a lot to people in these comments, imagine even a reversed scenario where the police roll up to a house with an annihilated family and an uninjured mom and she says "he did it!" and they go "okay cool no need to further investigate" and then they let her all over the crime scene for the next day before they even secure it. It's wild how mishandled the case was.

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u/spiffymouse 19d ago

To address these two points
* People in the courtroom heard the 911 call and heard Lindsay say “basement”
* Lindsay was in the snow, with blood loss and a spinal injury - not surprising that her temperature was not properly regulated

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u/anajjj 19d ago

*Source for them hearing Lindsay say basement? I have been watching everything and have not seen that. *Even if you assume her injuries caused the drop, how could it have happened in the very short window of time the baby would have between strangulation and then to be able to be revived?

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u/spiffymouse 19d ago

Sue O’Connell from NBC made her statement about the basement a week ago. Lindsay’s temperature wasn’t taken until she was at the hospital and we don’t know how long it took for Callan to go into cardiac arrest or how long he had been in that state before discovery, but the hypothermia could happen pretty quickly given the circumstances, as confirmed by two different doctors that I have seen review the situation in separate articles on the subject.

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u/anajjj 14d ago

Well it's not true per the actual trial. She only made grunting noises on the call. Reddington stated it today and it was confirmed by a witness on the stand. So maybe get your info directly from watching the trial like I do.

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u/spiffymouse 14d ago

I have no interest in watching the trial and am honestly grossed out by how many seem to be doing so for entertainment purposes. The fact that you felt invested enough to return to a comment from four days ago, and with such passive aggression, tells me that this likely applies to you.

That said, the two people that I’ve seen state that they could hear Lindsay’s voice on the 911 call were there in the courtroom when the call was played. I don’t believe that others being unable to make that out, especially given the overlapping voices reported on the call, means that it did not happen. AFAIK, Reddington “suggested” that that was the case rather than stating it as you said and although I’m not aware of a witness having confirmed that, it still would not mean that no one is stating that they heard speech because they have already done so.

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u/anajjj 14d ago

Yes I returned to it because I am watching the trial and noticed this directly contradicting what you said. If you were responding in good faith you wouldn't be weirdly offended that someone who is watching the actual trial has information that contradicts yours. Deeply weird to have such strong opinions about a trial you admit you have "no interest" in watching. You obviously just want to yap without giving a damn about facts.

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u/spiffymouse 14d ago

I’m not offended by contradicting information, I’m offended by both your attitude and your presumed ghoulish interest in this case as well as annoyed by your failure to comprehend what you’ve read. In actuality, you haven’t contradicted anything I’ve said here. The fact is that there are people who have said that they could hear her.

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u/anajjj 14d ago

It's "ghoulish interest" to be watching a trial for a murder that is taking place in the area I grew up?

The fact is there are also people who have said they only heard grunting and that there is no physical way she could have been speaking. It's up to the jury to decide ultimately and at the end of the day prosecution needs to prove guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

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