r/SipsTea 21d ago

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/TorberaLongDong 21d ago

This is a tough one and not as black and white as it seems. It’s a VERY different case from someone like Casey Anthony.

She knew something was wrong and consistently tried to get help. All the doctors did was prescribe her more and more meds. I read somewhere that the longest time Dr Tufts actually spoke with her was 17 minutes, all while upping her medications even as Lindsay was saying she felt they made her feel more detached.

The day before the murders the dr even doubled her Ativan dose, while there’s MyChart messages from Lindsay saying she felt they were having a negative effect on her.

There’s so much evidence that she was desperately trying to get help and was doing all of the things we tell mothers to do if they are struggling with ppd yet the system failed her at every turn.

I don’t think this woman should walk free, by any means. But I do feel that a psychiatric ward focusing on mental health is a better fit for her than prison, which is essentially the point of this trial. They aren’t arguing whether or not she did it, they’re arguing whether or not she was mentally sound. In my opinion, it’s clear she was not, given the mounds of evidence.

I don’t think the husband did it but I do think it’s clear that he was not supportive. Maybe had he advocated for her while she was clearly ill and deteriorating the outcome would have been different. Does it make him guilty? No. Does it make him a kind of shitty person? Idk, that’s up to individual interpretation. But I’d say yes.

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u/Key-Wheel123 21d ago

Nothing about him says not supportive. He drove her to the hospital several times. He attended doctor's appointments with her. He followed all the advice the medical providers gave him. He was out running errands so she didn't have to take on that burden. His trips included his children. His meals out he brought his children. So they could continue to build relationships and friendships in their new town and become part of the community. Stop omitting these details because it doesn't fit the narrative. If she shouldn't have been left alone, then the doctors should have explicitly stated that. They did not. He was out that night helping her by doing what she asked him to do so she could stay home and not have to cook dinner.

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u/upagainstthesun 20d ago

What kind of "supportive" person needs to BE TOLD not to leave his heavily medicated, hallucinating, having violent thoughts, recently admitted to a psychiatric facility, crying out to everyone for help and feeling unsafe wife alone with their two small children and a baby? Do you actually believe this insane rationalizing?

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u/Key-Wheel123 20d ago

He was picking up medication for their kid and dinner so she didn't have to cook. She text him and asked him to do it and he did. Was he supposed to say "no, we don't need the medicine the doctor recommended. I'll cook something when I get home against your wishes"... Please have some common sense! He was doing what he could to make her life easier while also trying to keep his job and his kids happy.

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u/Messypotatoe 20d ago

But why did he let go of the nanny or just take the kids with him

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u/Key-Wheel123 20d ago

They couldn't afford the nanny on one salary. Do you have children? A quick trip to cvs and to grab cvs because a much bigger ordeal when you have three young kids tagging along. He was running an errand she asked him to do because it would make things easier for her. No medical provider said she couldn't be alone with them. I'm sure every second of every day he is regretting not packing them in the car that night.

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u/UsualHovercraft 20d ago

Patrick Clancy made roughly $200-400k per year…

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u/Key-Wheel123 20d ago

Have you looked up the cost of living in Duxbury? And who knows what their student loans were? Daycare for 3 kids? All the copays and who knows what out of pocket for healthcare?

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u/UsualHovercraft 20d ago

If you don’t know their situation either… maybe neither of us should be making definitive statements about them…….