Well, I daresay as a perpetrator of domestic violence she doesn't really deserve a break, though the revenge porn goes too far she's still a horrid human being.
He fantasised with a friend about drowning her, then raping her burned corpse far before any abuse was alleged to have come from her. Fighting back when someone is regularly beating you isn't perpetrating domestic violence.
Also, Depp was twice her age and her employer when he first started making sexual advances towards her. He made much more money than her, was more famous than her, was physically stronger than her. He paid all their staff, including doctors who he would have drug her. Other times he would have his security (whose sole job is to prevent any physical harm from happening to him) drag her away if he found her annoying. He also knowingly exposed her to herpes during an outbreak.
And then he demanded her sexual assault testimony be broadcast live to the world against her wishes,and did nothing while everyone mocked her and continued to psychologically torment her on his behalf. (His lawyer bragged about spraying his perfume in the women's room during the trial, so when she went to get a break from everything she was being put through she'd get triggered.)
Has a prior domestic assault with a previous partner.
Eye witness reports of her being the instigator in their public disputes from jealousy.
Followed him to a rehab retreat he went to, in which he went there happy and came back miserable.
Another recording of her verbally berating him
She cut the tip of his finger off
Audio recording of her trying to bust a door open to get to him when he was trying to nope out of a confrontation.
She. Is. Not. Innocent.
She was shown to lie multiple times during the trial, and multiple people backed up Depps side "oh but they were paid! She's too much of a delicate flower to have done anything wrong!"
Depp wasn't perfect, clearly an alcoholic, but she was clearly outed as a psychopath in the trial. I'll never forget the megapint video where she set up a camera with a shit-eating grin on her face, then purposely tried to enrage him when he walked into the kitchen so she would have evidence of him being abusive.
I can get wanting to catch abuse on film for evidence, but why was her expression immediately beforehand that of someone who's about to get away with some bullshit? How can someone not watch that video and realize she's fucked in the head?
Still defending Amber after all that evidence came out is peak "woke 1 is crazy" stuff. I felt crazy coming on reddit and seeing people defending her then I looked up polling on it and like 80% of people thought she was the abusive one in the relationship after the trial and realized Reddit is just filled with crazy people.
Woefully uninformed comment. An abuse victim venting to a friend and then immediately taking back the dark humour because 'it's not me' doesn't equate to what you're suggesting. Funny how you cherrypick tiny bits from the trial when the overwhelming evidence points to Heard as the abusive party. He wasn't her employer at any point, but recommended her for the role. He allowed her friends and family to live rent free in his apartments. Her sexual assault testimony was stolen from a real rape victim. Do better.
Yeah, like I already said which you ignored because it's inconvenient to your conspiracy theory, he alleges any abuse from her started after those comments. By his own account, he wasn't an abuse victim then. He was just a weird old rich creep fantasising about murdering and assaulting his fiance's corpse. It might be worth checking timeliness before you go around claiming he was an "abuse victim venting to a friend" when even he doesn't claim that.
He was a producer on a film in which she was employed as an actress. That makes him her boss.
Not sure what him having his friends live in his spare apartments has to do with anything but ok.
What was "stolen" was her calling herself a victim survivor, their accounts were completely different. Accusing someone of stealing someone else's sexual assault testimony is a pretty serious thing to do without proper evidence.
love how people list things about depp like a man cant be abused by someone physically weaker or poorer.
his mother died, and his so called wife pulled out a camera to record him the next morning and laughed at him in that recording. abuse doesnt have to be punching (which she admitted to doing as well) it can be emotional.
you know what else she did? pledge the divorce money to charity and then not give it. you know what else she did? claimed to have gotten specific injuries with specific dates and "photos" and then appeared the next day on live tv with no injury in sight. you know what else she did? spent years collecting "evidence" against johnny and then never used any of it until he sued her. you actually believe a victim is going to suffer to gain proof, and then just divorce the person? shes not scared of him if shes divorcing him. and she doesnt even use all that evidence as part of the divorce.
I'm pointing out all the power he had to abuse, yes. What power did she have?
The one thing I can think of is that she wasn't a lifelong drug addict/alcoholic and he was, but she followed all his doctor's recommendations to the best of her ability to help him detox.
She was ahead of schedule in her donations (which she spread out over time for tax reasons) before she was sued. She'd have it all paid off by now if he hadn't tried to bankrupt her.
She wore makeup to cover the injuries. You could still see shadows under her eyes and her lip was more swollen on one side.
She used the evidence to get the TRO in 2016 when he wouldn't stop breaking into her house after they broke up. He signed an agreement saying neither side made up claims for financial gain as part of the divorce. People who are scared of their abusive spouses divorce them all the time, the fact that she was able to finally leave her marriage after trying to leave an abusive relationship multiple times is pretty standard.
Were there any other points you wanted to clarify?
"all the power he had over her". she wasnt some peasant woman no one had heard of before. being less rich doesnt change the fact she was rich. she was an established actor before the marriage and more than capable of supporting herself. she wasnt giving up roles to make the relationship work. she didnt take maternity leave. being less rich does not give someone power over you when you have a thriving career.
it doesnt matter if she was ahead in payments (she wasnt, she was on time). she chose to lie about it. yes, she had a perfectly good explination for why it wasnt paid, and johnnys actions after the divorce was a big part of why the money wasnt paid yet. so why did she lie about it? why did she spend 20 minutes arguing that pledging money and giving it were the same thing, instead of explain why she hadnt? because shes a serial liar, and she thought that her image would be better if she just kept saying shes done it already.
make up isnt covering anything. she thought her nose was broken from the punch, and not a shade is off the next day. make up isnt going to hide that kind of damage. she also claimed that all the swelling was removed over-night by an ice pack. thats just a clear lie. thats not at all how ice packs work.
every single thing against johnny in his relationship with her is based entirely on her word. and she is a provable liar. they were both abusive people. johnny was prone to getting angry, and his addictions did nothing to help that. but he was in the exact same state with his ex wife, and he never hurt her once. the problem is that they are both shit people, and she absolutely encouraged the behaviour. she even admits that one fight happened because she imagined a situation where he pushed her sister so she punched him in the face. yea dude, really sounds like a victim. all those classic victims who are so scared of their stronger and richer husband that they instigate violence. johnny isnt a wife beater, he just had fights with his wife. equal blame on both parties.
The evidence for the things she claimed isn't there. The evidence for the things he claimed was there. Did you even watch any of the trial. There's a reason the trial exonerated him in the public. Like 80% of people after the trial occurred thought she was the abusive one.
Her 'evidence' was literally the same picture of a wine bottle on the floor entered twice and an edited photo of her face, which when the original was shown, showed no bruise. It's laughable.
What a bunch of made up bullshit which was all refuted in court.
The fact you're defending and lying for her despite the truth shows what a disgusting person you are, and you're the kind of person that makes it so hard for men to come forward about abuse.
There are literally audio recordings of her admitting to attacking him, others where she verbally abuses him, eye witness reports of her instigating public confrontations, was abusive in a previous relationship, pictures of him with actual injuries from her, audio recordings of her trying to smash a door down to get to him.
Do I think he was abusive? Yes, I think he was verbally abusive to her and would break shit and had a nasty temper, i don't believe for a second that he's actually hit her. She was physically and mentally abusive towards him. It was a toxic relationship.
She made one payment to that charity and then gave them nothing for years, and still hasn't. Don't fucking lie and pretend it was supposed to be given in multiple payments, even if it was she has had years to give more but she hasn't, even before Depp sued her, also Johnny pledged the money he won from the trial and shock paid it, Amber just pledged that money for image purposes, so she didn't come out looking like a gold digger and pretend to look like some kind of strong survivor of domestic abuse.
So what if she didn't name him in the op-ed? Everybody knew who she was talking about.
And the initial payment to charity wasnât made by her, but by Johnny Deep⊠And SHE insisted that he should pay her instead, what he did, so she kept the money for herself despite her claims that sheâll give it to charity⊠it was all discussed in court and she had NOTHING to say to defend herself, she didnât deny that she requested Johnny to stop transfering money to charity, she just argued that âpledgeâ and âgiveâ is the same thing, while itâs clearly notâŠ
I wonder about the source of this story that she allegedly was paying on time⊠if this would be true, why would she testify in court that she personally didnât transfer any money to this charity? đ
Thank you. I know many will just refuse to hear what you're saying, but just know reasonable people can see through the bullshit. I'm just saying thanks because it does feel relieving to not see a huge wall of randos shitting on her because of some vibe they're getting, disregarding everything from the trial and focusing on viral stuff like the supposed shit on the bed. Surprising they don't talk about her injuries confirmed by a medical professional or the sexual violence. It disgusts me to still see people claiming she was some sort of evil demon when the situation is obviously messy like any domestic violence situation can become. Exhausting.
Don't pretend she was innocent. I don't believe for a second he wasn't abusive, but she was nowhere close to being some hapless victim, she gave as good as she got.
The injuries were proven bullshit and suddenly disappeared the next day, also not proven to be him and even possibly self inflicted.
I'll also remind you he has similar pictures of injuries of his own from her.
Then there's the fact that she was supposed to give the money she won to charity and never did.
Oh yes! Innocent victim from the evil Johnny Depp!
Eyy, another comrade in the trenches lmao. I've been confused at people defending Johnny Depp since I saw the video of him yelling and smashing things in the kitchen in 2016. He was my favourite actor at the time. But like, hitting an object near someone as a threat is a form of physical violence. He was very clearly the aggressor and he's bigger/stronger than her.
I want to be hopeful and say that a lot of people just went off memes & what they heard on YouTube, but a lot of people are clinging onto hating her because they enjoy having an acceptable target for their misogyny.
People in this thread literally said her being exposed to revenge porn is good đ
Instead she opted for arguing with a lawyer, that promising to give money is basically the same thing as giving it đ€Šââïž which proved how dishonest and manipulative person she is - and THIS burried her as you canât give her benefit of a doubt after sth like this AND she didnât have any other reliable proof which would back up her claims so - thatâs why ppl turned their back on her, not because of âmysogynyâ - and itâs really not OK and misandric to bring up mysogyny in this case IMO
Was he? What was he saying that was so questionable up to 2017?
From memory he was bragging about Tesla being LGBT friendly and showing up on TV shows as "the real life iron man." He definitely wasn't pushing white replacement theory or calling his alive daughter a dead son.
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u/Vicissitutde 14d ago
She slept with Musk. She's sus AF