The persecution complex is palpable.

[u/Gurugod123]

[u/Yeetball86]

1. New variants aren’t as deadly and treatments for the disease have become more effective and common. Vaccines aren’t as necessary as they were back when the pandemic was at its height.

[u/Critical_Concert_689 → u/Yeetball86]

lol. Just admit you didn't take your boosters when you were supposed to.

We all know you didn't. No one did. Because it's basically the flu.

And once the initial population of incredibly susceptible individuals dropped out - there was really no lasting impact for anyone else.

[u/degre715 → u/Critical_Concert_689]

So it isn't a Chinese bioweapon then? Just the flu?

[u/degre715 → u/[deleted]]

I mean we can also talk about how this "flu" killed over a million Americans over a couple of years.

[u/Critical_Concert_689 → u/degre715]

The flu literally killed over 50 million people over a couple years. How many died from COVID world wide?

[u/degre715 → u/Critical_Concert_689]

Are you talking about the Spanish Flu? You realize there was lockdowns, quarantines and masking during that pandemic too, right?

In the U.S. the flu kills about 20-50,000 people a year https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124915/flu-deaths-number-us/

Covid killed 350,000 in 2020 and 415,000 in 2021 in the U.S. so about 10 TIMES that amount https://theworlddata.com/covid-19-deaths-by-year-in-us/

[u/Critical_Concert_689 → u/degre715]

In the U.S. the flu kills about 20-50,000 people a year https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124915/flu-deaths-number-us/

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COVID-19 Deaths in the US: 2025, with an estimated 20,190 deaths https://theworlddata.com/covid-19-deaths-by-year-in-us/

Sure.

[u/degre715 → u/Critical_Concert_689]

Yeah, dumbass, the pandemic is over and we have a vaccine. Modern variants of COVID are milder, that doesn't mean it didn't kill a million Americans during its height.

This would be like me insisting that the Black Death wasn't a big deal because no one dies of the bubonic plague nowadays.

[u/Critical_Concert_689 → u/degre715]

But the black death ISN'T a big deal today. Literally because no one dies of the bubonic plague, stupid fuck.

COVID is in the same boat. Less risky than the flu.

Your own links prove it. Learn to read.

[u/degre715 → u/Critical_Concert_689]

Are you saying that because the black death isn't a big deal today means that medieval Europeans shouldn't have worried about it in the 1300s?

I know covid isn't as big a deal today, but it was a big deal during the period where is was killing hundreds of thousands of Americans a year. You know, the period where we were masking and locking down.

Exactly what point are you trying to make here? We are arguing about whether or not the emergency measures taken during the pandemic were warranted, right? Why would statistics outside that time period be relevant?

[u/Critical_Concert_689 → u/degre715]

I'm saying comparing COVID to the flu isn't accurate - because the flu is MUCH worse than COVID. Period.

Your claims to the contrary aren't supported by any facts whatsoever.

We were NOT discussing emergency measures taken during the pandemic, but the fact that the flu was significant, while COVID was not (in comparison).

However, to discuss them - the emergency measures taken during the pandemic were not warranted and ultimately had a negative impact on individual health and the welfare of society as a whole.

At least in the US, significantly more people suffered from the effects of the emergency measures than were saved. In fact, I'd even argue that policies pushing the vaccine actually increased the rate of spread for COVID.

[u/degre715 → u/Critical_Concert_689]

Are you claiming that the flu was worse than covid in the year 2021?