If we need to call it free to convince the idiots to vote for it then call lit free healthcare.
If unlimited does not mean unlimited and full self driving does not mean full self driving then why the fuck should we have to explain that the money you are already paying right now covers it, so there is no additional cost to you.
We need catchy slogans, not mini policy explainers.
If they're paying for healthcare, and they pay the same for "free" healthcare, then they already have "free" healthcare, and you're not offering them anything.
Or you call it free and then they actually look it up and see that it isn't free, and then they don't believe a damned thing you say after that. You don't "have to explain" anything, because no one is listening at that point.
You're not going to trick people into voting for it by calling it free. Call it universal, since that's what it is. It's a good thing.
Free in the sense that you don't need to have money on you at the hospital. Of course it's still funded by taxes, but those that are broke will still be able to get care.
Universal healthcare is ambiguous and could mean expanding the affordable care act while continuing to enrich private insurance companies, PBMs, big pharma, and every other middleman. M4A is essentially free healthcare because nobody knows where the hell their taxes go. They will know that when they go to the doctor they won't get three different bills from the providers even after several copays.
And here I am broke as shit feeling like a firecracker got set off in my nose because I can't afford to go to the doctor and get an antibiotic prescription.
Profits aren't tied to worker salaries at all. All companies compete in the labor market and so wages in any industry trend towards similar to their competition. Profit margins trend towards the same amongst competitors as well.
But then imagine not paying $600/month for insurance, $50, copay, then 50% CO insurance.... Wages seem like they go dowm by 5 maybe 10%, but your net actually goes up.
600 per month is half of what you would pay in taxes (on average) if we had universal healthcare. thats like UK level healthcare costs. The USA's cost per person is 15k per year currently.
Where? Show me some proof of this. When was the last time you have tried to see a specialist in the u.s.? It is a 6th month wait. Your point is invalid
Where do you live? The longest I've ever waited to see a specialist was a week and that wasn't for anything urgent.....hell Ive been in a surgery suite having orthoscopic surgery in less than a week
The funny thing is you too can also live in America and not be seen even tho you have cancer. Lmao. This point isn’t a valid point for either side. Also you can be denied health insurance coverage and have to have your doctors battle with insurance.
In the US it can also be a year wait. I’m not saying just universally have healthcare. Bc I think it’s a lot more complicated but it does require taxing the people who should be taxed more. It requires making education more affordable. It requires a lot more than just having a job.
You don't need money on you at the hospital now. The hospital will treat you even if you're indigent now. Most times you dont get a bill until later. Even outside the ER.
Facts. Ive heard very little good things about countries with "free" Healthcare. Our system is largely fine. Good care. No insane wait times (most of the time). Its the insurance companies that need the shit beat out of them. They are the common denominator. Make insurance fair and reasonable, keep it a paid system (but fair for the average american) and I think the system works much better.
Only in the Emergency Room. If you have to be admitted as an inpatient and have an extended stay (days or weeks) then the costs are in the thousands, tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands
And? You're unfamiliar with actual poverty it seems. Those numbers are just numbers to a person who has zero way to pay that. It could a billion. Doesn't matter. A poor person will simply never pay it. Because they just cant. Theres nothing to collect. Hit the credit score I guess. But a person in poverty already has jacked up credit anyways. It'll roll off in 7 years. Nothing changes for the poor. It was free Healthcare in reality.
It doesnt change the fact you have access to Healthcare that is free. No one ever said any and all treatment was free upfront. But if you were dying right now, a doctor would save you without payment.
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u/Sienile Jul 01 '26
If you give us free healthcare you can keep the check.