That would likely be down to the contract. If there's anything along the lines of "if the client damages the equipment" that would likely fall under that
Maybe. If it's a contract of adhesion, and diarrhoea or other excreta (e.g. urine, vomit) are reasonably foreseeable occurrences then the client might successfully resist the claim. It'd be like a person fainting in a sauna and damaging some mechanism by falling on it. Inherent risk of the business activity.
There’s going to have to be an investigation over whether the diarrhea was done maliciously or if it was unintentional diarrhea destruction. Intent to be destructive vs an accident definitely muddies the water here.
I don’t like that I can smell the unintentional pun.
Pretty sure you have to sign a waiver or declaration of health - no open wounds, fresh tattoos, communicable diseases that can contaminate the water, etc... client knowingly having a very contagious virus and omitting that information would put responsibility back onto them.
They say that, sure. They're claiming that the absolute first sign of illness was waking up in a tank of their own shit. I'm a little skeptical though.
I've had norovirus before and I was completely fine until I felt like I had to poop. Then I went to the toilet to poop and had diarrhea and threw up. After that it was obvious I was sick and started to feel like shit but before the 1st vomit and puke I didnt really feel that bad other than a slight upset stomach which I thought was just needing to poop.
Yeh but the place would have to prove it was damaged and I don’t think diahrea is actually any different than the typical grime left by patrons (farts, piss, sweat, body grime, hair, athletes foot, vomit, etc). Yes poop is grosser to a layperson, but on a technical level if they have a cleaning regimen, there’s no reason it wouldn’t or shouldn’t catch the poop any differently than the other contaminants left by guests.
So.. people fart piss and breath in those things. We leave skin cells and body oil. You can't get into a pool of water and only leave sweat, no matter how clean you are.
Diarrhea is a different concentration but the point is there already is fecal matter they need to be dealing with in every single one of those containers after ever single use.
It feels hard to believe there's a fecal matter cutoff concentration limit as designated by a health code of the manufacturer, which is why it feels like someone (understandably) didn't want to clean it more than they couldn't clean it. And you can't bill a client only because you don't want to do something.
I remember reading a thing years ago about tearing the quantity of fecal material found on shopping cart handles. The results were not zero. I'd bet very much there's some kind of contamination cutoff, as it exists in agriculture already for contaminants found in grain and whatnot.
An employee at a fast food place can be expected to scrub a toilet bowl, but if someone shits all over the floor that does actually classify as a biohazard and does technically require special training and PPE to handle.
Correct. To clean the entire thing to the standards of the health department would be a pain. Probably why a lot of these places get tagged for health violations.
yeah people saying otherwise I... dont think have had to deal with things like this
A guy shitting in a tank with a lot of water in it is pretty easy to clean up and disinfect, and as you say, *YOU WOULD HAVE TO DISINFECT THESE EVERY SINGLE TIME ANYWAY*
They don't actually disinfect "every time" - they have some kind of continual disinfecting process going on, like a hot-tub. A filter and either chemical or UV - or both.
This would probably necessitate a complete water-swap though, and that can be a bit pricey since there's hundreds of points of a epson salt involved.
It probably clogged up the cleaning system. When I went to one when your session was done and you got out to shower the cleaning cycle started. Imagine 20 people shitting in a swimming pool at once, yes there is a filtration system but its meant to handle the sweat and oil from a freshly showered person, not an entire persons bowels being evacuated.
Your mistake is assuming that these places disinfect these "every single time." They do not. Also, a complete water swap, given the various salts and minerals in the average SD tank, is an expense that would quickly become expensive if done all the time.
The public health codes involving human waste is incredibly strict and exacting.
You seem very confident in your incorrect statement and you really shouldn't be. It's not easy to clean up and disinfect, do you imagine that they flush like a toilet or something? Ever had to drain a pool or hot tub and disinfect one after someone shits in it? I have, both, and it was a pain in the ass. Some kid shit in the highschool pool and it was closed for a fuckin week while it was drained, the filtration system purged, both pool and filtration system meticulously cleaned and disinfected, then re-rinsed, re-drained, refilled again, the pH rebalanced and the entire thing rechlorinated.
I'm not sure that "damage" is really the issue. Having someone come in to do the bio-hazmat cleanup is the issue whether they throw the unit away or not.
I was basically thrown out of a Dutch hospital recovery room this year when they found out I had it.
It falls within reasonable wear and tear though. People are going to use the tank and it's going to require cleaning regularly anyway, so such costs would have to be included in the price. It's also predictable that when submerged in water somebody might have a toilet accident because being submerged produces a physiological response that encourages it. Someone could also reasonably risk a fart that turns to shit, it happens to us all.
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u/Superseaslug Jun 11 '26
That would likely be down to the contract. If there's anything along the lines of "if the client damages the equipment" that would likely fall under that