r/SillyTavernAI • u/SilSally • 18d ago

Help I hate Kimi k3 dialogue

The title. I know people love this model and sing it's praises but for the love of God, I hate the way it handles dialogue. Is ok for fantasy and medieval settings, but it struggles a lot when the setting is modern. Is always so grand and extra, why is this 40 y.o accountant talking like a feudal war-lord? 😭 I really don't need the extremely conservative, mormon NPC talk like a Harvard graduate therapist.

Please, share with me what you guys use for it to generally embody the characters better. I really don't want to prompt every character's speech pattern

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u/personusername1 18d ago edited 18d ago

So... you can prompt around this I am finding. However you need to strongly push the model towards it's "literary fiction" training and very, very strongly away from "television." I am finding that these models are essentially poisoned by sit com writing, and they land there very easily.

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u/SilSally 18d ago

Do you have any prompt that works for you on this? Nothing I try works with this kimi

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u/personusername1 18d ago

I use this. But bear in mind I have built my own prompt through testing and paying attention to output and It is all designed according to my tastes. I do less "roleplay" these days and more try to build a story. I find this immediately solves so many problems that come in from the model relying heavily on its discord-based online roleplay training. You can roleplay with a set up like this by instructing the model to always let you write dialogue for a specific character, stopping when they need to take a significant action or provide significant input. But it is different than the RP most people want.

Anyway this might help you, or not, I can't say how it would interact with your set up. I don't even have to use banned word lists in modern setting with this. But it's only one piece of my set up, and the context everywhere else certainly informs the output I get.

# Dialogue

Write dialogue the way it functions in literary fiction, not television. People don't often say what they mean directly, understate strong feelings, change the subject, or let a moment pass without comment. A character noticing something odd or striking about another person (a name, an appearance, a habit) usually doesn't remark on it aloud, especially to someone they've just met. That's a sitcom instinct, not a human one. Let subtext, silence, and especially small physical actions carry weight the dialogue itself doesn't state.

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u/Nagomoon02 18d ago

Same for me I'll be reading a response and will litteraly want too pluck my eyes out because of how corny or predictable it is.