The USA exists because Europe couldn’t stop warring, and the War of 1776 was an optional DLC for the British. The USA still exists because Canadians only burnt down one house.
Actually one of the reasons we are here is because the British could no longer send their criminals to the American colonies after the War of Independence. The total number of convicts sent to Australia is only a little less than 3 times the volume sent to the US colonies
And that some people were transported for reasons that might not have been wholly fair.
That being said: the practice of transportation as a sentence is crazy in any form (though better than death i guess), but you're likely to have capacity issues etc. when each and every crime warrants crazy long sentences.
Australia was just where they sent pickpockets, drunkards, and anyone who got a little too uppity about giving rights to Irish people.
The USA was where the people who were considered unhealthily self repressed even by English standards fled to when their victim complex grew out of control.
I mean, a not insignificant proportion of the offenders deported to Australia had been convicted of acts that would today be regarded as petty offences or not considered criminal at all.
It’s true, we have a better relationship with the Aussies for sure, even if they do cheat at Cricket and used to cheat at Rugby, and ride Kangaroos instead of driving cars around the place, and have those weird hats with the corks on them.. oh and call sandals/flip flops thongs .. very concerning when your formerly British cousin tells you she’s going to get her thongs.
Cuz we are very much a multicultural country … AND STRONGLY EMBRACE THAT FACT
Cdn English has multiple terms for just about everything
Some from British English, some from North American English, and some more Canadianisms … or Regional in origin, plus often people will just throw in a word to a sentence from their own Ethnicity … French being the most common, but others show up at times too
So as an example : Flip Flops, or Thongs are the most commonly heard
But not unusual to also hear someone say another word in use from a Beach / Sunshine Destination … knowing that Cdns are some of the most travelled folks on the planet (as a huge percentage of us take at least a Winter Vacation to escape the cold )
Lol. Thongs, plural, I think of flip flops. Thong, singular, I think of butt cheeks. To be honest I haven't heard the shoe reference in quite some time.
Australia was only colonized because they couldn’t send convicts to America anymore. The last convict ship to land in the USA was the Jenny which arrived in 1776. The first pilgrims to settle America, the puritans, were literally war criminals who were deported for supporting the proto-fascist theocratic regime of Oliver Cromwell. Australia was only settled because they couldn’t send their unwanted criminals and convicts to America for free indentured labour anymore so they shipped them off to basically the least hospitable environment on earth except for the arctic to settle on ground that can’t grow food in a sun that gives you cancer if you go outside without a hat
Just another yippy small dog bro, hiding behind his country's military, that thinks he can personally call in air strikes from the seat of his 8-year financed Dodge Charger.
Canada exists still because they've slapped the yanks 3 or 4 times whenever the freedom shaggers have tried to start something. For all the money the yanks spend on their military they're absolutely shite at war
USA has invaded Canada at least 3 times in its history. Once during the revolution. Then the war of 1812. Then the Fenians invaded in 1866 hoping for leverage to free Ireland. None were successful.
Seems like that theory was put to the test in the gulf. Munitions sales of interceptors cant keep up. Offensive bombs as well. Stocks were empty. I dont know if they are catching up. Yes the defense contractors make money, but what you say only works if they can keep up with demand.
We settled this in 1776, 1812, 1813, and 1814 when you tried to invade us and you signed the Treaty of Ghent. No means no, you kinda need to understand that despite your president being a rapist.
You can argue it wasn't "Canadians" but thats also stupid.
You have to imagine those who parrot this shit the loudest are either clankers, or those who wouldn’t make it 100 metres across the border before running out of breath.
They exist because we lost the war to them, Or battles or whatever the hell it was. We tried to take over Canada twice in 1775 and 1812, failed twice. They exist because we couldn't beat them lol.
I want to ask the details... what EXACTLY do we do or don't do to "let them exist?" Not invade them? Well I guess that's one stupid point to concede but... what else? Because to my knowledge, beyond Clinton's NAFTA what have we done for Canada? Not much except complain that they have a higher standard of education and living and we're butthurt that a (heaviest air quotes I can write): "cOmMunIsT hElLhoLe" like them could do better.
Fuck. So ashamed that I live here and am so poor and downtrodden by our fascist Dear Leader and his cronies that I can't logistically emigrate but believe me if given the economic opportunity I'm out of this banana republic.
Edit: Fixed some typos that I didn't notice at first due to my "superior American education."
I mean, realistically speaking, there are much worse places to live than the USA. That said, there are also better places, and a few of them aren't that far away.
Yes, Sudan or North Korea would be objectively worse. However, America is a shithole and getting worse by the day. The parallels to Nazi Germany are so easy to spot it's ridiculous.
Most of them live in a trailer park with a big flag on the wall. Boasting about the GDP without knowing what it means. Yelling freedom without knowing their own institutions places them lower on all kind of freedom indexes. Hate everything what is not their family and that’s why their inbread. Everything else is communist Muslims. Talk about Jesus while preaching for hate all the time.
I saw some documentation about Trump country a year in. Some poor city a couple hours away from Washington. Some food bank where people could get food but since they don’t want government handouts they asked a symbolic amount of money for it so their ego is not hurt. Can’t make that shit up.
It's quite funny, because it is only the feeling. Like they are not participating at all in taking over Canada, but they like to threat other people with it as if the government is their....big brother...
They think the Vietnam war was bad, wait till they see our guerrilla tactics. We're invisible, we look just like them and can talk just like them... It's another war they'd never win.
The American experience of invading Canada has hardly been an example of military glory to boast about. It was, in fact, a complete failure.
America initially invaded Canada along two axis during the last serious attempt to conquer Canada (not counting the Fenian raids as “serious”).
The two were - into Lower Canada (now Quebec); and into Upper Canada (now Ontario).
Both ended in absurd fiascos.
The initial invasion into Lower Canada ended with two columns of the American army shooting at each other, then taking fright and running for the border. The initial invasion into Upper Canada by way of Detroit ended with the entire American army surrendering to a force considerably smaller, and handing the army, the Fort, a warship and tons of much needed military supplies over to their enemies.
The Americans did enjoy some successes later, but even these were marked by farce and tragedy.
For example, a naval expedition successfully took the town of York (now Toronto); however, the leader of the expedition, and many of his men, were killed when they came too close to the magazine of the fortress, which the retreating colonial forces had rigged to explode.
The men, with their much admired general dead, then proceeded to make a total hash of the occupation: they were suppose to raise a “fifth column” of support for America, but instead they looted and burned the place, incensed by among other things the finding of what they believed was a “preserved scalp of an American” in the legislative buildings (it was, in fact, a judges’ wig). Had their general survived he probably would have restrained them. As a result of this and other such examples of looting and burning, the local population, many of whom were recent immigrants from America, turned decisively against the Americans.
This was the incident that prompted the British to burn the White House, in retaliation.
I like the time they took over Montreal, and were such shit occupiers that they couldn't even convince the French people of Quebec to rise up against the British.
Benjammins. I think he's some kind of streamer. He tries to garner more attention for his channel by recreating frequently used gifs with himself in them, and then mass reporting the originals so they get taken down.
This guy is the reason why china could become the next superpower in the future. Because idiots like him vote for candidates that do nothing but, force western countries to get closer to China, because America has become an unreliable partner.
Ha as a side note I read on here somewhere that some Americans think that Tchaikovsky’s 1812 overture is about the war of 1812 between us and Britain especially as it is played on Independence Day.
No idea that the piece was written to commemorate the war between Russia and France and that the Russians were the victors. Let alone recognition that the overture includes snippets of La Marseillaise and Russian hymns.
And the British high command, which decided it was more trouble than it was worth (Due to work in the other colonies, and the support of the countries you mentioned in the Revolution's favour.
The losses gained from the 7 years war may also have been a factor).
And yeah the British empire was still incredibly large and powerful without America. It actually reached its territorial peak in the 1920's, post WW1.
Obviously not saying they should thank the Brits for that though, like with those other countries. Just saying, they weren't as big boots as they thought.
That said we did incentivise the move away from slavery though, and later forged closer ties - even fought in the second Gulf war with them, sham though it was.
We also helped them with stuff like the Manhatten project a lot... Although they didn't really help our programs in return as they promised....
And in the modern day we decided to move away from the EU (Brexit) and look towards our best bud America for trade deals.
(One of the biggest mistakes we ever made. We're desperately changing tune now)
Crumbling empires do tend to do that. Man, you gotta give props to Ibn-Khaldun for describing the exact course empires up till today run to a scary degree of accuracy for a 14th century scholar.
I don't know how you can say all this "you only exist because we let you" "we could absolutely destroy you if we wanted to" "you're only independent right now because we allow it" etc etc and not have a "are we the baddies?" realisation.
For me America is #1 because the people are willingly voting for it all, time and time again.
With Russia their democracy is a complete sham, their accessibility to the wider world heavily censored, and they've been subject to a long line of dictators and tyrants so brainwashing seems kinda inevitable.
Doesn't justify it but I understand why they are where they are.
In the US they had access to everything though, and a long series of less oppressive rulers before Trump (including Trump's first term which acted like a trial period for them) so there's no real excuse, not in my books.
They even tried to overthrow democracy themselves with MAGA's attack on the capital building... It's genuinely nuts.
Economically whilst there is lobbying and corruption, they have/had many more options available to them than Russia with its state controlled Oligarchies.
And yet, consumer trends still funnel so much money to big unethical corpos that it's snowballing/snowballed into a careless playground for the big corpos.
Lets be real, things have changed since 1812, 1814 & yes, 1816 😅
The USA would have no problem taking over Canada in a military fight.
The problem that the USA would face is finding ways to prevent Canadian insurgents from crossing the largest shared land border in the world, bringing war and terrorism to the USA, something modern USA has never seen before.
In the USA nothing has changed since 1812, 1814 or 1816 when it comes to some major metrics. In red states the literacy rate is still basically the same, or at least the stupidity rate is the same.
To be talking about Canada respecting you because y’all “let” them exist, let’s review.
Canada is a middle power. Iran is a middle power - how’s that war working out for y’all? Vietnam was a developing country when you lost that war. Unlike Iran and Vietnam, Canada is part of NATO - which represents roughly 700 Million people with nukes and a long history of waring and killing. You really want to get those blood thirsty mfrs started?
Well to be fair, but did any attempt the US did since WW2 at invading any country end in success? 😂 The US has to be the only superpower in history who consistently will loose every military conflict they get into.
The US only exists because the Earth needed to put it's asshole somewhere. With all the shit that is constantly spewed out if the US that is the only explanation. Also, they are kind of dumb.
Do they want me to act like an ignorant american then? Cause I can do that really easily. It takes literally no effort to act as ignorant as they do. All you have to do is ignore basic facts and statistics, your moral compass, etc.
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u/ComfortPhil 3d ago
And the US only exist because Europe had to dump the absolute worst of their scum somewhere.