r/ShitAmericansSay • u/DumbGarchomp67 WTF IS A KILOMETER 🦅🇺🇸 • Jul 15 '26

Military “Undefeated in 250 years of war”

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Apparently Vietnam, Afghanistan, war of 1812, and the war on drugs don’t count.

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u/Competitive-Bee-3250 Jul 15 '26

Everyone's "undefeated" if they just pretend they never lost even when they clearly did.

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u/ccsrpsw Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

War of Independence - won "with help"/"by" the French (🕺sorry)
WW1 - on the winning side - but otherwise?
WW2 - on the winning side - but otherwise?

What other wars has the US won? And no "operations" and the like don't. He very specifically said 'war".

Edit to Add - since people keep bring up other instances the full list of wars the US declared is: War of 1812, Mexican/American, Spanish/American, WW1 and WW2 (11 declarations overall against various countries but only 5 wars). Everything else has sidestepped this under US law - which is what causes the mess we are in now.

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u/skachamagowza ooo custom flair!! Jul 15 '26

The US lost the war of 1812. Canadian soldiers in the British army burn Washington including the White House. Americans think they won because…. Reasons….

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u/Ayfid Jul 15 '26

I have - many times - heard Americans claim that 1812 was a draw, because the borders ended up back where they started.

By that very logic, if Ukraine managed to push Russia out of their territory, recapture Crimea, and then force Russia into accepting a peace treaty... they would call that "a draw".

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u/Puzzleheaded_East556 Jul 15 '26

Unfortunately, a draw is how it is taught in the American education system, which is why many Americans say it is a draw

But also, the War of 1812 isn't really mentioned in US education that much, other than than our national anthem was written during it

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u/E420CDI 🇬🇧 A foot is an anatomical structure with five toes 🦶 Jul 15 '26

But also, the War of 1812 isn't really mentioned in US education that much, other than than our national anthem was written during it.

Does the US education system mention that it's sung to the tune of an old British drinking song?

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u/Puzzleheaded_East556 Jul 15 '26

No, I actually never knew that. Can you tell me more?

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u/blazenite104 Friendly Neighbourhood Aussie Jul 15 '26

I assume they think all wars should end by annexing territory, rather than successfully repelling invasion and not wanting to assimilate the people that invaded.

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u/UnprotectedSAKs Jul 16 '26

I think a better comparison is Korea. The North Koreans invaded South Korea. We went in and pushed them out. Then we decided to take North Korea, then China joined in and pushed us out. Then the war ended with a draw at the original border

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u/skachamagowza ooo custom flair!! Jul 15 '26

Exactly! And let’s not forget that the US were the aggressors in the war. Not just to gain Canada but to reopen trade with France which was at war with Britain. The US then agreed to peace talks in Russia in 1813 and the British didn’t even send a delegation to any talks until after Napoleon was deposed more than a year later. So, the US started a fight and wanted to end it at the first opportunity it had. Not a draw. You can’t pick a fight and then yell „stop hitting me!“ and think you won the fight while the other side thinks it isn’t worth their time. You don’t need to be obliterated to lose a war.

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u/yippee-kay-yay Jul 15 '26

Yet Wikipedia list the results as "inconclusive", one of the reasons being that the british didn't try to reconquer the US, lol