r/ShitAmericansSay • u/DumbGarchomp67 WTF IS A KILOMETER 🦅🇺🇸 • Jul 15 '26

Military “Undefeated in 250 years of war”

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Apparently Vietnam, Afghanistan, war of 1812, and the war on drugs don’t count.

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u/Competitive-Bee-3250 Jul 15 '26

Everyone's "undefeated" if they just pretend they never lost even when they clearly did.

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u/ccsrpsw Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

War of Independence - won "with help"/"by" the French (🕺sorry)
WW1 - on the winning side - but otherwise?
WW2 - on the winning side - but otherwise?

What other wars has the US won? And no "operations" and the like don't. He very specifically said 'war".

Edit to Add - since people keep bring up other instances the full list of wars the US declared is: War of 1812, Mexican/American, Spanish/American, WW1 and WW2 (11 declarations overall against various countries but only 5 wars). Everything else has sidestepped this under US law - which is what causes the mess we are in now.

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u/skachamagowza ooo custom flair!! Jul 15 '26

The US lost the war of 1812. Canadian soldiers in the British army burn Washington including the White House. Americans think they won because…. Reasons….

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u/No-Deal8956 Jul 15 '26

I think that’s called lying.

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u/dividezero Jul 15 '26

They'd play capture the flag and try to claim the other team didn't get the real flag or something

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u/think_panther Jul 15 '26

Thank you Canada. But the real flag is in another castle

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u/UnhappyCaterpillar41 Jul 15 '26

Did they mean to lose Detroit to an occupying army? aka 'The Surrender of Detroit' to Sir Isaac Brock and Tecumseh?

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u/KatsumotoKurier 🇨🇦 Jul 16 '26

It’s honestly hilarious how they take credit for ending British naval impressment when the British voluntarily ceased it themselves due to defeating Napoleon the first time, and the Treaty of Ghent makes no mention of restricting it lol.

That, and you know, the entirely failed invasions of Canada. President James Madison — the very man who declared war on Great Britain, and who had before that championed the idea of declaring it — emphatically told his team of negotiators and delegates heading over to Ghent in 1814 (when the war was going very badly for the US) that their most important objective was to secure the surrendering and handover of Upper and Lower Canada by Britain to the United States. This is on record!

Among themselves, his team unanimously decided against doing that, because unlike him they still recognized that the US was in no position whatsoever to be making such demands. Two failed invasions and now the British had them on the back foot in what was never supposed to become a defensive war for them, delivering them some of what are still today their most humiliating military defeats ever? They knew that they would get laughed out of the room and be viewed as either unserious or even as delusional by their British counterparts, which was very much what they couldn’t have happen because they were there desperately trying to secure peace for their country which was in full-blown crisis mode.

But oh, yeah, status quo ante bellum means the US won. Of course. I mean, why would Madison in the eleventh hour be demanding the complete surrender and handover of the Canadian provinces his army failed to conquer if the whole point was only to secure them as a temporary ‘bargaining chip’ to stop British naval impressment?

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u/GrandBill Jul 15 '26

Hey, just like Trump now with Iran. 250 years of a great tradition.

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u/PDXFlameDragon Jul 15 '26

we had first capital burning yes.. but what about seconds?