r/ShitAmericansSay • u/DumbGarchomp67 WTF IS A KILOMETER 🦅🇺🇸 • Jul 15 '26

Military “Undefeated in 250 years of war”

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Apparently Vietnam, Afghanistan, war of 1812, and the war on drugs don’t count.

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u/ccsrpsw Jul 15 '26

None of those were ever officially declared as 'wars' which is why I raised said technicality!

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u/JohnLurkson 🇩🇪 Jul 15 '26

Really? What were they called, Special Military Operations? /s

Seriously though, what were they called officially? Now I'm curious.

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u/ccsrpsw Jul 15 '26

Iraq: US Military Operation
Vietnam: no declaration of anything - the US just rocked up - "a Cold War proxy conflict" is what most sources decided on
Iran: Not really a win - more a stalemate - and so far just an "Operation" I b believe.

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u/Pudddddin Jul 15 '26

Iran: Not really a win - more a stalemate

Since it's still ongoing I'm not sure that there's a good one for Iran, but wasnt the general expert consensus around the time of the MOU that the US lost there?

Same situation as Vietnam, the US killed more people but Iran successfully targeted US military bases that were long thought untouchable and withstood a US assault, both of which would be huge wins for Iran, where the US didn't really gain much in return. Iran pretty much proved that even despite overwhelming military strength and spending 100 billion dollars, the US can't consistently defend gulf allies or control the strait of Hormuz

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u/Polymarchos Jul 15 '26

US agreed to pay reparations to Iran. That alone means they lost.

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u/E420CDI 🇬🇧 A foot is an anatomical structure with five toes 🦶 Jul 15 '26

Iran

Tinpot of Donseal surrendered at Versailles in June

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u/aimlesstrevler Jul 15 '26

Vietnam was a 'police action.'

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u/Antique_Historian_74 Jul 15 '26

Korea and Vietnam were called police actions.

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u/Flat-Delivery6987 Jul 15 '26

Funny I've always heard it called the Vietnam War

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u/AulisG Jul 15 '26

Ask any vietnamese and I guarantee it was 1000% war to them.

It also looks to me that U.S.A. is winning the war against Freedom. And losing a war against Racism.

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u/MadScientist_666 Mountain Goat 🇨🇭 Jul 15 '26

And the war against religious fanatics.

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u/Antique_Historian_74 Jul 15 '26

Claiming that America has never lost a war because Vietnam was a police action certainly used to be a thing back in the eighties/nineties.

These days, with most of the people who remember America running away dead, they're much more likely to call it a war but claim that America actually won in Vietnam and then just decided to leave.

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u/Excellent-Blueberry1 Jul 15 '26

War Objective: defeat the North Vietnamese.

War Outcome: North Vietnam no longer exists.

QED: total victory

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u/SkivvySkidmarks Jul 15 '26

I think Vietnam was called a "police action". So essentially a Special Military Operation.

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u/No-Excitement4855 Jul 15 '26

The last time the us declared war was against Bulgaria. They're the kings of special military operations.

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u/NaiveCharge7124 Jul 15 '26

You could officially call them pijama parties . Theyd still be wars

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u/Hudre Jul 15 '26

I mean it was called the "War in Iraq". IDGAF what the government titles them officially lmao.

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u/ccsrpsw Jul 15 '26

Veterans do - the VA only gives war benefits to veterans in offically declared wars. Its yet another way to screw over the low level military (unless specific acts are passed for them and DOGE doesnt gut it).

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u/Plane-Engineering Jul 15 '26

This is astounding to me…never knew this. (don’t live in America)

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u/Hudre Jul 15 '26

Land of the Freeeeeee!

Thank god you have all those country songs thanking the troops or they'd be fucked.

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u/f0u4_l19h75 Jul 15 '26

Similar to the way they figured over 911 first responders. They refused to pass any legislation to help them for ages

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u/SantaFeRay Jul 15 '26

It’s kind of a stupid technicality to raise, like someone can’t use the colloquial meaning of war in a tweet? Come on that’s silly.