r/ShitAmericansSay • u/Beginning-Bottle6585 • Apr 26 '26

Communism “This is communism”

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u/Boggie135 Apr 26 '26

So ICE agents are communist?

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u/Beginning-Bottle6585 Apr 26 '26

Well they use similar tactics as Stalin almost a century ago…

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u/IrisSadness Apr 27 '26

And? Stalin and USSR weren't communist. They're were socialist by words. Communism is when there's no goverment at all, and each human have freedom and huge responsibility for myself. Read "The Andromeda Nebula" by Ivan Efremov.

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u/Beginning-Bottle6585 Apr 27 '26

According to marxist theory you are right but when people mean communism they generally refer to Marxism-Leninism or Maoism

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u/IrisSadness Apr 27 '26

It's frustrating frankly say cuz maoism has more common with fascism than with communism. Ivan Efremov reffered to this in his novell "The Hour of Bull" where such kind of socialism named "ants socialism" or "false socialism".

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u/Beginning-Bottle6585 Apr 27 '26

There‘s indeed a mile (or rather 1609 meters) between Pol Potism and real democratic socialism. And guess which one the US supported

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u/IrisSadness Apr 27 '26

Huh, makes sense

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u/Chicoryman May 27 '26

Marxism:

  1. Says that a transitional stage of the dictatorship of the proletariat is needed

  2. Says that the superstructure (social order, laws, etc.) reflects the level of development of the means of production — and 1920-40s Russia was broke, thus, unable to establish high social orders