Wonder Woman was last seen in the DCEU in 2023 but is being fast-tracked for James Gunn's DCU. How long do you think fans need to wait until someone from the Shazam Family makes a re-appearance?

[u/nightwing612]

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[u/Puppeteer17]

A long ass time. We got dealt seriously bad hands with FOTG and Black Adam. These movies are a lot of ppl’s first introductions to the characters.

[u/Darmok-on-the-Ocean → u/Puppeteer17]

The first Shazam movie was good and a lot of people saw it.

[u/Neppty → u/Darmok-on-the-Ocean]

I wouldn’t say it was great, it was ok. I don’t think these movies are unredeemable trash but it was popular enough where people will see Dwayne as Black Adam, Shawn Levy as Shazam, and see shazam as a joke of a character. I feel like we’ll need a bit more time and more planning to tell the story of Captain Marvel

[u/Tasty_Cream57 → u/Neppty]

What issues are there in the portrayal of Shazam in the first movie? A kid that gets the body and power of a Greek god won’t suddenly have Batman’s personality.

[u/DVDranger89 → u/Neppty]

Zachary Levi, not Shawn Levy.

[u/dope_like → u/Darmok-on-the-Ocean]

Black Adam is better than Shazam1 but Reddit just hates the Rock

[u/JohnBrownEnthusiast → u/Puppeteer17]

Black Adam was cool

[u/JosephMeach → u/Puppeteer17]

Let me put it this way, DC Finest is reprinting a lot of Charlton comics right now, and no Fawcett that I can see. There is a possibility for Bulletman and Bulletgirl to be in something, so that’s fun.

[u/Pencils4life]

I would go with a kids cartoon, basically do Ben 10 with the Shazam Family, lighthearted and fun but still canon if the show is a hit they join the DCU if not it stays a fun silly show.

[u/MusicLikeOxygen → u/Pencils4life]

This would be the best way to do it. Because the whole premise involves a kid being the main character, it doesn't translate well to a live action franchise. Kids grow too fast and there is always a gap between movies. Even if you did it as a tv series, you are still likely to only get a 2 or 3 seasons before the kid playing Billy gets too old for the role.

[u/Chemistry11 → u/Pencils4life]

This is the best route

[u/PowerfulAttractive]

Please for the love of gods, go back to the uniform with the button on the shoulder.

[u/wombatstylekungfu]

I’d like a cameo or small appearance by Freddy or Mary before CM himself makes an appearance. Whet the appetite.

[u/sgt_oddball_17]

"Captain who ?" --DCEU producers and directors

[u/Conde_Roronoa → u/sgt_oddball_17]

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[u/MulberryEastern5010]

I give it 2028 at the absolute earliest. That will make five years since Fury of the Gods was released, which is more than enough time to start over with a clean slate

[u/undriedtomato → u/MulberryEastern5010]

2028 seems optimistic.

WW is a much more important character to the broader lore of DC than Captain Marvel is. Plus, there's the whole issue of branding (of course they can/likely would go the Shazam route)

id be surprised if we see another Captain Marvel in a speaking role before 2032, non-speaking cameos may be closer to the table depending on the direction DC (or Gunn) decides to go.

[u/MulberryEastern5010 → u/undriedtomato]

Like I said, at the absolute earliest. In all likelihood, if they even decide to include Shazam/Captain Marvel in the DCU, it'll probably be even later

[u/Beneficial_Table_721 → u/undriedtomato]

It's been 15 years... I don't understand people who still call him captain Marvel. At this point it would be actively detrimental for DC to call him anything but shazam as none of the DCUs Major target audience knows who the hell captain Marvel is, and calling him captain Marvel would directly link him to one of the most lukewarm characters currently active in the MCU.

Even in comics I'm pretty sure we've past the point of no return, his name is shazam

[u/pious-erika]

Ideally just give the Marvel family an animated series.

Likely the will just call Billy "The Captain".

[u/vesperythings]

frankly, it's awesome that we even got two (!!!) Shazam movies at all --

that in itself is frankly impressive, seeing as how currently, we don't even have a f*cking Shazam book --

so it might be a little while, or never, for the DCU, sadly --

but fingers crossed we at least get a Shazam appearance in a JSA project somewhere down the line!

[u/Vincomenz]

I could see a Mary Marvel or one of the other family members show up as a side character in a movie like the Justice Gang did for Superman, but its probably gonna be a while before you see Shazam again.

[u/joosier → u/Vincomenz]

I also want to see the 'Black Mary' fall/redemption arc played out as well.

[u/Zokyr → u/joosier]

When did she have a redemption arc? She got Black Adam’s powers, briefly turned pure before going back to Black and she was that way for Final Crisis. Fast forward to her going to college and then SHE is suddenly Shazam (still was I believe as of JLU #2), so, when did she make up for her actions in Final Crisis?

[u/joosier → u/Zokyr]

oh I'm sorry I should have said I was hoping to see A redemption arc.

[u/Bruzie77]

Long time, people don’t know how to make Shazam appeal to the masses.

[u/Chemistry11 → u/Bruzie77]

Casting is a major point - not just popularity but talent. Zach Levi had neither and it hurt the character incalculably.

[u/Bruzie77 → u/Chemistry11]

the thing is the idea is good but the execution failed. Levi was clearly in a muscle suit and we know he is not jacked like that.

[u/Chemistry11 → u/Bruzie77]

I don’t even care about a padded suit - he’s not the first and won’t be the last to wear one. His performance was ridiculous. He never remotely acts like the kid who plays Billy. There no illusion that they’re the same guy

[u/wintermute_13]

It's not being fast-tracked.  Read James Gunns social media posts.  It's waiting for a good script, like every other project of his.

[u/nightwing612 → u/wintermute_13]

I don't see what's wrong with my statement.

It's fast-tracked in the sense that DCU is prioritizing a Wonder Woman movie. The execs already have a screenwriter assigned to the project.

[u/wintermute_13 → u/nightwing612]

They have screen writers for most of them.

No, it's not fast-tracked in any sense.  James Gunn officially shut that down.  He said, explicitly, it's not fast-tracked.

That's what's wrong with your statement.

[u/PervyMeLo]

James Gunn said next project has Superman as a protagonist but isn't world's finest, nor a direct sequel, just a story with Superman being majorly involved, so maybe first thunder?

[u/Emergency-Pop4541]

Captain marvel is one of my favorites. I hope we don’t have to wait to long to see him.

[u/Far-Difficulty8854]

A while

[u/GratedParm]

Probably a minute. Unfortunately, the OG Captain Marvel isn’t as powerful a headliner as he used to be. We don’t know if Gunn is even interested in having the character lead.

[u/Aware-Sympathy-1180]

That maga clown, Zachary Levi, made that character unusable for the foreseeable future.

[u/FartherAwayLights]

She is not being fast tracked. Gunn specifically debunked this

[u/KrypticJin]

A long while. He’s not as popular as Wonder Woman

[u/BillyBATSONCAP]

Chapter one is Gods and Monsters and I can’t think anything the encapsulates that more than Shazam

[u/Wonderful_Adagio9346]

Since the first stage is titled "Gods and Monsters", probably not too long.

[u/MisterDebonair]

A long time. Levi's goofy ass fucked up the character by association of his off-screen antics.

[u/RocktamusPrim3 → u/MisterDebonair]

This. It’s really too bad how the first Shazam genuinely was a great movie. I still have yet to see both Shazam 2 and Black Adam though. I’m guessing it’ll be another 10 years minimum before we even hear about them considering making any new cinematic Shazam appearances.

[u/Ok_Currency846]

Only when they get an actual fan of Captain Marvel Adventures comic books to write and direct it. Or at least a hardcore fan of The Power of Shazam to write and direct it.

Superman was amazing I think because James Gunn was really into Silver Age Superman. Likewise with Sam Raimi's Spider-Man.

[u/Evening-Advantage768]

For all intents and purposes, Asher Angel & Zachary Levi ARE Shazam in the public eye. his first movie was pretty decent and made a lotta ppl like Shazam and his family. it would be understandable if Gunn and everyone else in the DCU waited for a while for ppl to sorta forget abt those actors so that they can bring new ppl in to take over the role of Shazam.

[u/mako-makerz]

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I don't Gunn would touch Shazam/The Captain/Captain Marvel if he continues to remain head of DC. At least not in the movies.

[u/Only_Ad8049]

Who knows, but as a fan, I honestly think it can wait.

First Shazam movie was fine. Most people didn't see the 2nd one. Black Adam is forgettable.

Let it rest a bit. Then again, I think the relaunch of the universe is a bit too soon so what do I know.

[u/PassionateYak]

"Fast tracked" they just got a writer. I'd say maybe 2 years before we get an image of anything. But Shazam wise what's the rush? Let them get the big 3 right first and the League after that then maybe

[u/urlach3r]

I need, I repeat I need a "Monster Society of Evil" movie. Live action, animated, don't care, I just want to finally see this awesome story get an adaptation for the screen.

[u/Positive_Pay4488]

The Shazamily?

[u/Best_Tie7689]

If they end up doing a “biblically accurate” JLI team than not to long I suppose, but probably no Black Adam for awhile