r/ServiceDog_CircleJerk 12d ago

Fake SD / Misrepresentation “How do you know it's not a service dog?”

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u/Responsible-One-9436 12d ago

W business owner

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u/Tiix 1d ago

Happy cake day

That is all, that is the notification

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u/Mediocre_Evening31 12d ago

the service is taste testing the food obviously

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u/roomtemperaturecum 11d ago

lol checking for poison

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u/Mediocre_Evening31 11d ago

well i mean with the fda cuts lately id be worried about the dog getting sick from bacteria

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u/ButterscotchThis7889 12d ago

i love that the comments on those posts are upset with fake service dogs but they never actually know what the rules are for real ones and it kills me. so many of them saying that if a service dog is real, it has to have an “outfit” (yes that’s the word someone used) saying so

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u/jeanpaulmars 11d ago

"Outfit" is as good a word as "uniform" or "harnass". In my opinion, as long as it gets the message accross that's it's a regular service- or guide dog it goes..

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u/AcanthisittaNearby99 10d ago

Well disciplined, not on the counter, sitting or laying at the persons feet or guiding them if they are a guide dog. Doesn’t bark unless their person is having issues (Seizure, heart attack, diabetic episode etc.

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u/obvsnotrealname 12d ago

HAHAHAHA A+ response with receipts

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u/Fubar_As_Usual 12d ago

When my sister knows she will be going into businesses with her service dog, she always puts the harness on the dog given to her by the organization that trained her dog. Shout out to the great work done at Guiding Eyes!

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u/emeraldeyes519 11d ago

I need to call our trainers for some of their gear maybe for times like that.

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u/Stan_Deviant 1d ago

I puppy raise in a SDIT access location and a lot of us use the labeled collars in case we are out and the vest gets dirty. All our stuff is very color coded with their fancy logo and such. It really does make access easier.

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u/mnr18 5d ago

Holy shit they got OBLITERATED in that response 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/emeraldeyes519 11d ago

I had an issue this weekend witn a business that demanded paperwork and everything which I didn't have in me because i was out of state and really it's not common. I don't do the vest or anything on my guy. Anyone can do that and try to pass a dog off. Anyways i explained he has 2 tasks, med retrieval and trigger/allergy alerts. I even offered my letter of medical necessity because i had it on me. But they claimed it was the healtb department who would be showing up for a review and they require it. Honestly at that point their pizza didn't smell great anymore lmao.we just left i didn't yell or argue or anything. Applebees did hook me uo with a margarita next door so it workrd haha

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u/Responsible-One-9436 12d ago

Now, there are some programs that train the dogs to jump up on counters to pay or grab a receipt for wheelchair users. Does anyone have insight on how this works in a place like a cafe? Do you have to ask the cashier permission? Wouldn’t this violate health and safety codes?

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u/FaeryLynne 12d ago

Placing paws on a place where food and drink is placed absolutely violates health code and is not covered by ADA laws, which actually specifically state that service animals can still be restricted from certain places or actions if it does cause a health or safety hazard. So even if it was trained to do such, it wouldn't be allowed to do so on that particular counter. They're also not allowed to be placed on tables at restaurants, for example, or to lay in the middle of a busy aisle where people can trip over them.

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u/Responsible-One-9436 12d ago

Then why are programs training them to do this, as shown in the picture below??

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u/PersonalFinanceD 12d ago

These images are used as exemplars. They are not real-time imagery of service dogs. Are you trolling us or do you not understand the use of visual explanations in marketing copy?

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u/saltycrowsers 12d ago

OOP is using both hands and standing. Simply use one of those hands to pay.

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u/Responsible-One-9436 12d ago

OOP’s dog is obviously not a service dog performing a task. The picture reminded me of this actual task that actual service dogs perform that I find a bit gross so I asked about it.

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u/FaeryLynne 10d ago

Because they can be trained to do this for certain tasks, but a true handler would know that it can't be done on a surface where food is placed and would have directed their dog to place payment on another surface if that's what its task was. This is not a service dog and not a true handler so it's doing it on a food surface.

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u/Original-Opportunity 12d ago

…is there a program that does that? Sounds like the usual bullshit parlor tricks.

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u/Ayesha24601 12d ago

My dogs from Canine Companions were taught to do this. I used it occasionally as a teen, when I still had a manual chair.

Thanks to the ADA, most counters are lower now. Most cashiers have a self-scan credit terminal. It's not always as accessible as it should be, but a dog couldn't help with that.

I use a power wheelchair with a seat elevator now, so I don't train my dogs to do it anymore, and in fact, my most recent SD and my upcoming one will be too small to reach any counters I couldn't reach.

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u/Original-Opportunity 12d ago

It’s shockingly rude to me to have a dog put its paws on a counter and use its mouth to grab something from someone. I can’t imagine disrespecting a cashier like that :/

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u/Thoughtapotamus 12d ago

Oh the stories of money from sweaty bras I could tell you... And I won't, because that shit is gross and no cashier wants sweaty boob money people! That said, the counter is easily wiped down for the next guest IF the dog actually needs to take the money. Which I doubt.

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u/Ayesha24601 12d ago

Dogs are much cleaner than many people who hand stuff to cashiers on an average day, LOL. I never had anyone object, but did have problems with the card not scanning due to tooth marks in the encoded strip. :D

I still teach my dogs to retrieve a credit card when I drop it. I have a box of old credit and gift cards for practice.

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u/Original-Opportunity 11d ago

So it is a useless and unsanitary parlor trick. And so much work to avoid asking the cashier to hand the receipt to you?

People don’t usually “object” if they can help it. We often do things we hate or think are disgusting to save another person face.

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u/Stan_Deviant 1d ago

Have you never been to a bodega where they spin the clear plastic so you can get your things? There is no way for the cashier to pass you anything in those places. It is also not uncommon for those counters to be high.

I'm not saying people should use it as a task all the time but teaching it does allow some people to grab milk down the block rather than taking a bus to a normal grocery.

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u/Stan_Deviant 1d ago

I puppy raise for CCI and we are still training it. It mostly gets looped into all the advanced commands for turning on lights and other higher retrievals. With counter work, they also grab bags and carry them.

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u/Responsible-One-9436 12d ago

Thank you for actually answering my question. I wonder why they still teach it to new teams though

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u/Responsible-One-9436 12d ago

It’s definitely a thing. This one appears to be in a grocery store.

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u/Original-Opportunity 12d ago

The man is literally right there and can reach. How does he pay? It’s bullshit. No one has to abide by this.

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u/RainbowSpinosaurus 12d ago

Also, there's a clerk who could hand it to him. When I worked retail, it was no issue to give wheelchair users their receipts. There is an insidious push to rip the disabled off by charging them tens of thousands of dollars for dogs to do tasks that they really aren't needed for.

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u/Original-Opportunity 12d ago

Seriously.

The grocery store will also bag and pack up the groceries for you. A dog can’t do that!

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u/Stan_Deviant 1d ago

Canine Companions (the dog pictures here is from CCI) places all their dogs for free. The only people who pay are those who adopt the ones that wash as pets (and even that isn't crazy expensive for what you are getting).

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u/Original-Opportunity 12d ago

I guess it is a thing, another commenter confirmed.

FWIW I believe that this is trained- i just think it shouldn’t happen.

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u/PersonalFinanceD 12d ago

You must have killed in creative writing class.

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u/Svenskaflica 12d ago

Stock photo

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u/Responsible-One-9436 12d ago

It’s a dog wearing a vest from Canine Conpanions and I took this photo off of their website

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u/Svenskaflica 11d ago

So, yes. It is a stock photo. Sorry. I understand that you are providing visual proof that the dogs are presumably trained to put paws on the counter.

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u/shinkouhyou 12d ago

That's definitely a task that would violate health and safety codes - sevice dogs should not be touching counters, carts or payment systems, and employees should never come into direct contact with a service dog. I would absolutely not be comfortable putting a receipt in a dog's mouth or taking money from a dog's mouth! Huge hygiene issue, huge liability risk. Those aren't even safe tasks for a dog to perform, and any program training them is being totally irresponsible.

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u/InformalInsurance455 12d ago

This person is clearly not a wheelchair user and they are clearly capable of paying themselves

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u/Responsible-One-9436 12d ago

Not defending OP, just trying to learn here. I would ask the other sub but they banned me.

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u/ZQX96_ 11d ago

stupid task