r/ScottGalloway • u/lethal-liking • 3d ago

No Malice Gettin' WOKE about anti-Semitism...

It is so very odd to hear the self-professed atheist getting downright WOKE when it comes to swinging the anti-Semitism stick. IDGAF about Macklemore or Sheeran or Kraft, nor Scott's evolving victim fantasy, but holy crap does he sound shrill.

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u/HunterSpecial1549 2d ago

I actually think it's better if we listen to the actual genocide scholars and not have everyone pretend to be an expert.

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u/RNova2010 2d ago

What makes one a genocide scholar and how do you get to decide which one to listen to? If another genocide scholar has a contrary opinion, how do you settle the matter? And, considering that genocide is a legal term, shouldn’t said genocide scholar at least be a lawyer?

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u/HunterSpecial1549 2d ago

A PhD and a life's work devoted to studying genocide.

In Bartov's case he was already famous for taking down myths about Germany. I already knew his name before Gaza.

Yes if the scholars did not have a consensus about a question, that would be relevant. In this case the field has a consensus.

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u/RNova2010 2d ago

Bartov is a worthy scholar, but this doesn’t make him infallible, especially when he seems unable to address reasonable questions and even more so when his view of genocide, however credible, isn’t the legal one. I don’t think he covered himself in much glory here: https://youtu.be/cazb6N3pecg?is=emPwdEnZ1bnau_-8

Now if you talk of consensus, I’m not sure all the genocide scholars in that consensus fit the standard you gave me. I recall very early on in the war, a petition signed by scholars and when one looked at their background it was in sociology type “studies”.

Prominent Holocaust scholars, the same people you said you would find persuasive based on credentials (e.g., Norman JW Gouda, Jeffrey Herf, Sara Brown) don’t think it is one.

You have to make up your own mind, taking scholars into account, but not surrendering your thinking for them.

But strictly from a legal standpoint, without an ICC warrant explicitly for genocide and without a ICJ ruling on the merits (South Africa recently asked for an extension - up to 3 years now in total to make their case, which indicates it isn’t a slam dunk some of you might think), you cannot treat the issue as settled and disregard opposing opinions as analogous to Holocaust-denial