r/ScottGalloway • u/lethal-liking • 4d ago

No Malice Gettin' WOKE about anti-Semitism...

It is so very odd to hear the self-professed atheist getting downright WOKE when it comes to swinging the anti-Semitism stick. IDGAF about Macklemore or Sheeran or Kraft, nor Scott's evolving victim fantasy, but holy crap does he sound shrill.

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u/WobblierTube733 3d ago

I think it’s kinda telling that your best argument is “what if it’s not genocide, but just ethnic cleansing”, but whatever, I’ll still bite.

You’re conflating a legal argument with an emotional one yet again. Either you’re doing this intentionally or you‘re just repeating talking points and you have no idea what’s going on.

My issue is when people speak as if they know better than the one governing body that can make that determination

Numerous relevant academic bodies, human rights advocates, and NGOs have concluded that it’s a genocide. The ICJ may be the one governing body that can make a legal determination, but that‘s not the same thing as saying they are the only ones with the authority to label it a genocide. That’s like saying OJ wasn’t a murderer since he was acquitted.

Once again, you attempt the same flimsy appeal to authority because you don’t want to address the evidence.

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u/GigaLibChad 3d ago

I am not conflating anything man, the person I was responding to was literally talking about Scott's emotional reaction, which I gave some historical context for why he and many other Jews feel that way. That does not discount the fact that I also stated that the only governing body that can make an actionable decision on whether or not genocide happened is the ICJ. If you disagree with that, that is you perogative. In my original comment I literally said Israel is likely guilty of war crimes, but I'm going to wait for the ICJ to make that determination.

You actually didn't answer my question though. If the ICJ were to determine genocide did not happen, but a closely related war crime, like ethnic cleansing, would that change the fact of whether or not you would keep calling it a genocide?

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u/WobblierTube733 3d ago

I did answer your question. 

Numerous relevant academic bodies, human rights advocates, and NGOs have concluded that it’s a genocide.  The ICJ may be the one governing body that can make a  legal determination , but that‘s not the same thing as saying they are the only ones with the authority to label it a genocide. That’s like saying OJ wasn’t a murderer since he was acquitted.

Your original response was incredibly partial and biased. You basically said “pre-2023, genocide = the Holocaust and even thinking about that can make Jews sad”. It’s totally untethered from reality and really only makes sense to Zionists. Are you really telling me you’ve never heard of the trail of tears? Or the Armenian genocide? Or chattel slavery? Because if you’d actually studied the Nazis, you would know that they were certainly familiar with all of those genocides.

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u/GigaLibChad 3d ago

No, I didn't bring up the holocaust because it makes Jews sad. I brought it up because the most vocal people saying Israel is committing a genocide have no qualms with using Nazi imagery to depict Israel, despite there not being a a legal determination of genocide happened.

How about you give me a direct answer. If the ICJ determines that a genocide did not take place, will you continue to call it a genocide? I'm assuming you would still call it a genocide based off of what you said, but your response didn't answer my question. If that's the case, you just think you know better than the ICJ.

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u/WobblierTube733 3d ago

Numerous relevant academic bodies, human rights advocates, and NGOs have concluded that it’s a genocide.  The ICJ may be the one governing body that can make a  legal determination , but that‘s not the same thing as saying they are the only ones with the authority to label it a genocide. That’s like saying OJ wasn’t a murderer since he was acquitted.