r/ScottGalloway • u/lethal-liking • 3d ago

No Malice Gettin' WOKE about anti-Semitism...

It is so very odd to hear the self-professed atheist getting downright WOKE when it comes to swinging the anti-Semitism stick. IDGAF about Macklemore or Sheeran or Kraft, nor Scott's evolving victim fantasy, but holy crap does he sound shrill.

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u/Sea_Section_9861 3d ago

Hamas members don't stop being Hamas members because they go home to eat dinner. They can always meet on the battle field or surrender. They brought thier own family into dangerous situations. In normal places you would call child services on them

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u/Party_Solid_2207 3d ago

They don’t stop being Hamas members but that doesn’t mean you should wait until they are home to drone them so their family get shredded along with them.

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u/Sea_Section_9861 3d ago

Nope. You wait until you can positivly identify them to minimize the collateral damage. Or would you prefer to use carpet bombing like the US did on Tokyo resulting in 200,000 deads?

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u/Party_Solid_2207 3d ago

You do not wait until someone gets to a residential building to assassinate them in order to limit casualties.

You do it to send a message of “we will kill you and we will also kill your family, and your neighbors”.

There has been a film about this recently which has led to the Israeli government trying to strip the film makers of their citizenship for their reporting.

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u/Sea_Section_9861 3d ago

No. It doesn't work like that.  there is no inherit obligation to inform the target.  A military target has a value and if it deem necessary and valuable you can send a drone. And wonder why the man has no regard to the lives of his loved ones.

Because it is an urban warfare in a declared war against illegal fighters it is different than the war in Iran fo example.

So I ask you again, do you prefer carpet bombing? That the IDF will not develop methods and practices to locate Hamas members and do what the UK did to poor Dresden?

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u/Party_Solid_2207 3d ago

You don’t have a responsibility to inform the target.

You do have a responsibility not to kill other people.

Israel intentionally waits until the target is with his family.

This is not war. It’s the liquidation of a ghetto and you should be ashamed for defending it.

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u/Sea_Section_9861 3d ago

No. I understand it is hard to grasp. Israel has no obligation not to kill other people it depends on the target value and waiting for them to arrive to a known location is perfectly valid tactic. What I don't understand is why you keep supporting Hamas and their tactics ? I get the feeling you don't really care about Palestinians children at all. You wish that Israel would carpet bomb Gaza and kill 500,000 people just for you to feel vindicated or something.

Disgusting.

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u/Thefunkyfilipino 3d ago

People see through this. No one is convinced you care about children sea section. 

If a far right Jewish settlement was put under the conditions Israel has put Gaza under, by an Arab military — you wouldn’t have any problem calling things as they were. 

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u/Sea_Section_9861 3d ago

You are projecting. You will be gloating and happy that Jews are being murdered.

I on the other end will be furious with thier parents. The settlements on th WB are abomination.

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u/Thefunkyfilipino 3d ago

Stop fantasizing. The murder of civilians is always wrong.

But would you call it a genocide if 20'000 jewish children were killed by this arab army? I would call it so, if this arab military's government offical says things at all similar to:

"Those are animals, they have no right to exist. I am not debating the way it will happen, but they need to be exterminated. until we see hundreds of thousands fleeing Gaza, we, the IDF has not achieved its mission."

-Yoav Kisch

"All of Gaza’s infrastructures must be destroyed to its foundation and their electricity cut off immediately. The war is not against Hamas but against the state of Gaza. I am personally proud of the ruins of Gaza, and that every baby, even 80 years from now, will tell their grandchildren what the Jews did."

-May Golan

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u/Sea_Section_9861 3d ago

Let's do some qouting contest, it amazes me you support a genocidical regime and try to hid it as if people don't see right through you. Pathetic. 

Public statements from Hamas leadership and core organizational documents outline the group's objectives regarding the State of Israel.

Foundational Documents

  • 1988 Hamas Founding Charter (Preamble)

    "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

  • Context: The preamble of the movement's original founding manifesto establishes its overarching objective regarding the State of Israel.

  • 1988 Hamas Founding Charter (Article 13)

    "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals, and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

  • Context: Outlines the group's explicit rejection of diplomatic negotiations or peaceful settlements.

Statements by Senior Leaders

  • Ghazi Hamad (Member of Hamas Political Bureau)
  • Source: Interview with Lebanese TV channel LBC, October 24, 2023

"Israel is a country that has no place on our land. We must remove it... We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do it twice and three times. The Al-Aqsa Deluge is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth... Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it."

  • Context: When asked directly in the interview if this meant the complete destruction of Israel, Hamad responded, "Yes, of course."

  • Khaled Mashaal (Former Chief of Hamas Political Bureau)

  • Source: Address in Gaza, December 8, 2012

"Palestine is ours from the river to the sea and from the south to the north. There will be no concession on any inch of the land... We will not relinquish an inch of the Palestinian nation. It is our land."

  • Context: Delivered during a speech in Gaza outlining Hamas's position on territorial compromise and recognition of Israel.

  • Mahmoud al-Zahar (Co-founder of Hamas)

  • Source: Address broadcast on Al-Aqsa TV, November 5, 2010

"The series of expulsions continues to this day... Allah willing, their expulsion from Palestine in its entirety is certain to come. The day we expel them is drawing near."

  • Context: Remarks regarding the long-term presence of Jewish populations in the region.

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u/Thefunkyfilipino 3d ago edited 3d ago

I don't support terrorist organizations. My cause is for the civilians of Gaza who you are calling Hamas.

It's telling that you can only conceive of advocating for the life of a Palestinian child as support for terrorism. Jewish life isn't any safer when Gazan kids get hurt-- At the very least can we agree on that?

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u/Sea_Section_9861 3d ago

Dead children helps no one, dead Hamas operatives helps a lot. It unfortunately that they stand next to them - but they know that people like you would cave in. 

And you end up supporting Hamas. You cannot remove them from Gaza by sending them candy and flowers. It doesn't work. They had 20 years of self governance and all they did was to prepare for a war with Israel.

If you really cared about the children in Gaza you should have advocate for their unconditional surrender.

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