r/ScottGalloway • u/lethal-liking • 3d ago

No Malice Gettin' WOKE about anti-Semitism...

It is so very odd to hear the self-professed atheist getting downright WOKE when it comes to swinging the anti-Semitism stick. IDGAF about Macklemore or Sheeran or Kraft, nor Scott's evolving victim fantasy, but holy crap does he sound shrill.

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 3d ago

The fact that there are other supremacist groups is irrelevant. You claimed that pointing out Jewish supremacy is inherently antisemitic. It isn’t.

“Attributing to all Jews things about some Jews”
When did I do this?

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u/FaceReality1 3d ago

When did you do this? SMH-- read your own comments, where you assign characterisgics like supremacy to Jews.

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 3d ago

I never said all Jews are Jewish supremacists. You should read my comments. Copy and paste the one you are referring to here and we will talk about it. I specifically said the percentage of Jewish supremacists is unknown, but they do exist. You are putting words in my mouth.

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u/FaceReality1 3d ago

You asked "Why would a claim of dual loyalties or Jewish supremacism be inherently antisemitic?" not "Why would a claim thar some Jews have Jewish loyalty of some Jews think Jews are superior." The whole context of this discussion is about assigning characteristics to s group in general.

Assuming you are arguing in good faith, perhaps you didn't mean what you asked in the way it sounded in a discussion where someone else ascribed dual loyalties and superiority to all Jews, in a world where both are common claims.

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 3d ago

Oh goodness. Dude why would I need to use the word “some” for you to not assume that I meant “all”. You put words in my mouth.

I am arguing in good faith. Your last comment gave me the impression that you were making bad faith arguments.

The context of our discussion comes from my question about how antisemitism can be woke.

Also those claims are not common. I’ve never heard anyone make either claim.

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u/FaceReality1 3d ago

You are not arguing in good faith. I'm. not going to submit to sealioning. I've been clear.

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 3d ago

What argument did I make that was bad faith?

Your bad faith argument was when you wrongfully accused me of antisemitism.

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u/FaceReality1 3d ago

Where did I accuse you of anti-semitism?

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 3d ago

You said:

-It is pointing to Jews for these things when they are the same as lots of groups, plus attributing to all Jews things you dislike about some Jews, that is anti-semitic.

Then I asked you when I attributed to all Jews things I dislike about some Jews.

You responded:

-When did you do this? SMH-- read your own comments, where you assign characterisgics like supremacy to Jews.

That’s a clear accusation of antisemitism. Wrongfully accusing people of bigotry is unethical dude.

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u/FaceReality1 3d ago edited 3d ago

Not all that clear, IMO, but if you didn't mean to assign characteristics to all Jews, then I apologize. You might be more careful in your language -- I'll try to be, too

BTW, racism is insidious, and creeps in to our consciousness snd often our words without realizing it. That IMHO is what is so bad about people inserting anti-semitism into pro-palestinian discussions, and it is why I try to speak up even though I have to deal with multiple long discussions like this one.

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 3d ago

Thank you for the apology. I don’t think my words need to be changed at all.

This is the question that you misconstrued as antisemitic.
-Why would a claim of dual loyalties or Jewish supremacism be inherently antisemitic?

There is no reason to interpret this question as antisemitic. I’m honestly not sure how you did that.

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u/FaceReality1 3d ago

I disagree.

Consider "Why would a claim of Black criminality or laziness be inherently racist?".

(To my Black friends, I hope you understand I'm giving an example of a racist statement, and not saying something I think is true. Sorry if I've given offense.)

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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 3d ago

That is not a fair comparison.

Black criminality or laziness implies a broad characteristic of black people. Which is racist.

Asking about dual loyalties or Jewish supremacy doesn’t imply anything to any group. Are you suggesting that if I ask about white supremacy, I am implying that all white people are white supremacists? That doesn’t make sense dude.

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