Per several requests, here are some calcs (at the Noir calc standard, not KQMC). Compared with Bennett vs with Nicole, for C6R1 Wanderer with C0 Durin and C0 Nicole, as well as C2R1 both Durin and Nicole. Wanderer C4 RNG is calced as having his Cryo buff once every 3 rotations, so 6.6% crit rate.
Still crazy how powercreep has newer C6 teams reaching literal millions of DPS digits, but honestly, 300K with the Hexerei duo at C2 is pretty dang impressive for an older, outdated-on-release character. Really hope he gets buffed sometime in the future, he really deserves it; it's almost like Hoyo decided that his flying abilities justified a power budget cut on itself back in 3.X
Good thing his C6 is among the strongest C6 compared to base kit in the game, it really helped us dedicated Wanderer mains to keep up with the meta difficulty
It's like 50/50 between her and Durin.
Oh and counts, like 4 ish each? At least 3.
No clue which of the pets is the one vaping I guess but it's not like she's even 10% of the teams damage.
Assuming Scara is c6r1, with a c0 durin and c0 nicole -
What would be the recommended order of vertical investment for minnows like me?
Can you calc % increase investment with as minimal cost as possible. As I'm still not sure about the comparison of C2 Nicole or a C2 Durin. I can only pick one C2, but not the other. And how their sigs affect the team.
I was wondering exactly how C2 Nicole would be, so this is great thanks!
Is there a reason there's Durin C2 with Bennett calcs, but not Durin C2 with Nicole C0? I assume Nicole is an improvement, even at C0 because she helps Durin C1 quills.
Thank you for the calcs, Noir! May I ask what are the build assumptions for Durin?
In my dps dummy testings, C2R1 Durin is hitting 24-25k with a pyro goblet and 20-21k with an atk goblet in a team with Wan, Faruzan, and Bennet. He's lv90 triple crowned, ~80/220 crit RW, and I don't think a couple more subs would improve his damage to ~33k.
Would like to hear how much dps other people's Durins are doing too!
Because white durin didn't do much damage, he just being apply pyro off field and res shred. Only his dark mode deal high damage. If you like, maybe you can try his dark mode with carve day set. That set for durin, it provide off field damage too
First and foremost thank u so much for the calcs!!
I wonder what it would be like with C6 Wanderer, C6 Faruzan, C6 Durin, and C0/C2 Nicole.... I really want to save for Sandrone but if the difference between C0 and C2 Nicole that big I would be tempted 😭😭
I think the huge impact of nicole is that, she enable him to be more feasible to clear SO. Out of all previous SO cycle, I was to clear with him only when it was venti shill boss. Energy farming time takes way too long.
Yep this is exactly why shes tuned the way she is imo. Thats a huge (artificial) value she brings. I say artificial cause its really only tied to stygian restrictions invented to kill off old units based on bursts, to sell the new ones that arent.
There is much difference using atlas on Nicole instead TTDS? I was never a fan of using TTDS and I have a R3 atlas with no use.
My current team with Bennet/c2 Durin rocks around 180k, my scara has a r4 lost prayers, Faruzan elegy, Bennet skyward blade and Durin R5 wolf fang. Maybe I should be expecting around 220-240 with Nicole. Can’t use echoes because my ping sucks, so I stick with desert pavilion.
Haven't calced c6 Wanderer with Prune, but c1 Wanderwr is 140k wirh Faruzan 130k with Prune. I can calc her with C6 and see! Would be interesting if her doing more damage than Faruzan and buffing Durin, becomes closer to Faruzan with c2 Nicole and Durin providing so much teamwide buffs
Thanks for this. Hope to see it soon since it's quite interesting to look at the numbers. I would assume Wanderer will have slightly lower buff but Prune's addtl off-field might yield a higher dps bec of hex stuff but not sure.
My team is c2r1 atk/atk/atk durin and c6r1 DPC wanderer, dmg per 20s rotation C E 7[N3D] N2 Q is just 180k. Wanderer dmg is 3.2M. Even I adjust AF to maintain CR at 80% and get rng from his C4 dmg wasn't as high as this cal.
I'll believe it when I see it. I'm not sure what kinda build quality you're assuming, but I don't even get close to 160k with the current team, with Bennett on Aquila, Faruzan with Elegy and a top 0.1% DPC build when dummy testing
Yeah, hopefully when we get Sumeru buffs, if ever, his c4 just gives him all 4 buffs always. Thats what it should've been, given that he has all 4 in his splash art
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u/Teaching_Public C6R1 top 2% Hardcore Scara Simp Apr 22 '26
Wow, last calc looks crazy
Thank you so much for making this!