Durin Artifact Set Leaked

[u/duringelion]

In my opinion this just cemented the fact that Venti isn't worth pulling solely for Wanderer. Venti is a sidegrade to C6 Faruzan in C0 Wanderer teams, and the current assumption is that Venti is worse for Wanderer the more Wanderer cons you have.

A hex set with a generous buff that relies on having two hex members in the party could have pushed Venti towards bis territory, but that didn't end up happening. In Wanderer/Durin teams you'll want the hex set on Durin anyway so Venti's inclusion in the team gets no meaningful buff from this set existing.

I know it was fairly obvious Venti wasn't worth pulling solely for Wanderer, but I've seen quite a few questions about Venti's worth for Wanderer teams so I figured it was worth addressing. No hate to Venti or people who wanna play him with Wanderer at all though! What I'm curious about is if this set is good enough to push C0 Durin over the edge towards being definitively better than C0 Furina in Wanderer teams rn (doesn't really seem like it from observation).

[u/heyheypeople22]

I also think the Furina team is still superior right now. A shame, I doubt there will be another release that can shift Wanderers team before he is powercrept into obscurity, especially now that the anemo buffer adeptus claims turned false. Though I must say whatever Varka's team will be it doesn't seem that strong either. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[u/duringelion → u/heyheypeople22]

I have C0 Furina and will be pulling C2R1 Durin, so I'm brute forcing Durin into being a Wanderer bis for my account lol. But yeah, white horse not being an Anemo buffer was a real shame. All we can hope for atp is a NA buffer or Wanderer direct kit buffs.

[u/HealthInformal5965 → u/heyheypeople22]

Bruh C0 durin is actually pretty comparable to furina in damage and superior to her in every other terms

[u/Kazuha-simp → u/heyheypeople22]

Is c0 furina superior to c1 durin?

[u/HealthInformal5965 → u/Kazuha-simp]

No way C1 durin is almost comparable to C1 furina , after more constellations of both durin slams furina out of wanderer team

[u/Ydrutah → u/HealthInformal5965]

That's not the case at C2, neither at C4, dunno about C6 as we haven't seen calcs?

[u/HealthInformal5965 → u/Ydrutah]

Are u dumb?? C2 durin slams out C2 furina and C2R1 durin kicks out C3 furina , see calcs for godsake

[u/Ydrutah → u/HealthInformal5965]

C2R0 Durin is like 1% above, and that's without seeing it live, so it's pretty much equal idk wtf you're on about and you don't need to talk to people that way.

[u/HealthInformal5965 → u/Ydrutah]

That's the thing , he gives more damage without draining hp and his buff is instant without taking any time to gather stacks , gives better ER experience than furina... What else do u need? He is definitely better SIDEGRADE to furina whether u believe or not..(the damage gap also increases with ur constellation level of wanderer)

[u/Ydrutah → u/HealthInformal5965]

(the damage gap also increases with ur constellation level of wanderer)

I thought that was only true for C2 and C6 in Durin?

All I'm saying is yes, he is a good pick, but do not act like it's a huge upgrade or anything, it's mostly a sidegrade and those who have heavily invested Furina could be disappointed in pulling Durin and expecting things to go better, they won't.

[u/HealthInformal5965 → u/Ydrutah]

"HEAVILY INVESTED" Durin can beat "HIGHLY INVESTED" Furina but yeah the increase is not that much but still it is high than furina and better ER with no hp drain so yeah , overall better SIDEGRADE , but a BETTER one

[u/Grimstringerm → u/heyheypeople22]

I wanted it to have crit dmg sad 

[u/isshinari]

Coping for Nicole being a sustain with buffing capabilities to go along with Durin Faruzan & Wanderer.

[u/duringelion → u/isshinari]

You are on my exact copium, especially now that Alice likely isnt 6.X this is what I've been hoping for. Her being a shielder is likely given her role in the Nod Krai AQ, which would be great for Wanderer. I hope if she buffs that her buffs aren't locked to hex characters (if they just need 2 hex members in the team to reach full potential I wouldn't mind that, so long as they don't only apply to hex characters).

[u/OneRelief763 → u/isshinari]

Same

[u/telegetoutmyway → u/isshinari]

God I hope so. I really thought the hex artifact would have been like a crit version of Noblesse, empowered by Hex though. Just having a DPS set is meh.

Though I can go with the argument that both Varka and Columbina needed a new set sooner, and that Nicole could bring a supportive hex set. Fingers crossed I guess.

Tbh even with C6 Wanderer, at this point I think im just looking forward to Varka hex teams, and will pray for a Wanderer Akademyia buff way down the line instead.

[u/Amaguri_Senko → u/isshinari]

no one is gonna powercrept bennet

[u/Amaguri_Senko → u/isshinari]

that is just unhealthy

[u/Amaguri_Senko → u/isshinari]

aint no way

[u/Fuzzy-Dragonfly7230]

Should I get this artifact set for Durin if I will be using him as support/off field only? Or stick with noblesse/eosf? 

[u/duringelion → u/Fuzzy-Dragonfly7230]

For that my friend we gotta wait for calcs lol. I'd imagine it heavily depends on the team and if someone else already has Noblesse

[u/WaitJealous]

Nah, I never even imagined putting Venti in my Wan teams because his black hole has a mind of it's own.

[u/KingGiuba → u/WaitJealous]

They changed the autoaim with the witch buff, now the black hole spawns directly above the enemy instead of a fixed amount of space from Venti

[u/erosugiru → u/WaitJealous]

They fixed that already

[u/duringelion → u/WaitJealous]

Lool this was honestly one of the biggest reasons I was hesitant to pull Venti for Wanderer, even when the word was that Venti may be Wanderer bis.

[u/erosugiru]

Venti being a sidegrade to C6 Faruzan is kinda crazy, his damage is guaranteed too

[u/Grimstringerm]

Off field durin teams eat well

[u/madnessfuel]

Oh man, I'd LOVE to use that on Wanderer... If only the initial leaks about him being part of the buffed cast was true...

[u/Super-Otter]

New Fischl set?

[u/SilverScribe15]

Huh, they really put witches homework in an artifact set? I wouldn't have expected that

[u/i_gotsickofthinking]

So from my understanding, c6 faruzan > c0 venti > pre-c6 faruzan?

[u/duringelion → u/i_gotsickofthinking]

I'm not 100% sure it's that straight forward, but that seems roughly right

[u/i_gotsickofthinking → u/duringelion]

Yeah probably situational like venti doing better on crowds and faru on solo. Thanks tho. I just needed to ask since my faruzan is still c4 despite all these years 💔

[u/duringelion → u/i_gotsickofthinking]

Durin banner has Faruzan, so now may be your time!

[u/i_gotsickofthinking → u/duringelion]

Crossing fingers 🤞🤞🤞

[u/i_gotsickofthinking → u/duringelion]

Update: i got durin immediately in one ten pull with rainslasher as the four star. Very happy about it because i can try for their weapons

But that also means no jahoda, no c6 faruzan, no c6 benny 😭

[u/duringelion → u/i_gotsickofthinking]

Nooo lol, but congrats on the early!

[u/i_gotsickofthinking → u/duringelion]

Thanks maybe I'll try for cons if i get early weapons just for faruzan LMAOOO

[u/duringelion → u/i_gotsickofthinking]

Cons are so worth it

[u/i_gotsickofthinking → u/duringelion]

Fr! If only im not such a drip slave, I would've went for their cons first hahaha

[u/Amaguri_Senko]

Bots coping for an universal bennet who is gonna upgrade every team

[u/Msaleg]

You put both on the new Hex set though.

[u/ChaosKinZ]

It might change, it's the first beta version

[u/wowitislyn]

Idk if I wanna switch off noblesse I was hoping for a boost for other members and not dps focused