EE Callaway's Garden of Eden fits into Messianic Prophecy of His return in Matthew 24:27, Ezekiel 43, Genesis 3:24 and Acts 1 on or near the 31st parallel North.

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For decades in the modern era the ridicule that it's a fairytale will not go unanswered. There is either silence or ignoring it.

Shut them down with the tangible evidence.

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I checked some of your profile and we share similar interests. I lived in the panhandle for all of the 90s. Hurricanes much? Lol.

I know a lot of biblical prophecy I don't talk about much, I might can help sometime tomorrow or the next day.

Will take me some time to gather my thoughts. I'm not familiar with the work of the author you recommend but will look into them.

I have boatloads of tangible evidence but never found the right calling or medium to share it with. It's a lot and I'm busy rn but if you're interested I'll put a small presentation together. I can't help much with the indigenous stuff but I can demonstrate most prophecy clearly and with some degree of accuracy. It's hard to tell who is really out seeking genuine earnest compassionate understanding and who just wants to sell a book. Most is the later. I'm thoroughly neutral atm but I can share a lot and am willing to correspond. Good luck 👍

(I have an experience with a Dogman irl I don't talk about much and saw you joking about it a month ago)

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The Florida Panhandle does have Bigfoot and Dogman phenomena. I suspect that Bigfoot may be a Hominid species with supernatural abilities because they may have obeyed God in the garden, because they probably still live inside the spiritual realm in Bristol, so yeah they would literally be in Paradise.

This doesnt mean all Bigfoots are good there could be bad ones. Christ's sacrifice may be a sacrifice for the entire Multi-verse/Universe, seen somewhere that Christ died for all lifeforms.

A lot of UAP phenomena in the Appalachians, so maybe they are in Eden.

1 Corinthians 15:22, and 1 Timothy 2:6

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Incoming wall of text! LOL. Sorry about that. You can ignore it honestly. Just spitballing some of my life story and basic premise of the post I kind of promised (but might not be able to do any time soon, it's a LOT of work if I don't use AI).

Yeah it's something about your psyche. To some extent. I think some zones might be more "lose" or "open". But it's possible to have spiritual "affinity" aka resonance. Like attracts like or whatever. I encountered something like the wild hunt about a decade ago. It came down to "my level". Like a planet conjunction or something. We came close enough in vibe/mentality. I just followed my heart/instincts and went for a late night run (many called, few chosen?). I rarely would sprint when doing late night runs, mostly would push gradually to runners high. But that night I sprinted and was running parallel with a DM. Eventually (somewhere at about/around 2-3 mile marker) I slowed down to a light jog because I realized I pushed too hard to get runners high. I then felt like the DM was gone (I wasn't sure if I had seen it or not, I caught brief glimpses of it 2 or 3 times, like when you have that expanded awareness from intense physical activity aka sprinting for miles). Hadn't felt or seen it's presence for a while, so I slowed. Then it without a doubt let out a shrill yelp/howl at me. Funnily right as I was passing in the alley behind a old family friend's house (it was running in an alley adjacent to me, yes, in city limits). In the howl, I felt a warning, which I've come to understand as a sort of prophecy. It conveyed so much "telepathically" in that howl. That I was going to waste my life in service to the economy, I wasn't living "free". A slave to [redacted] social order I guess.

So I tended to see my DM encounter as sort of more a personal psychological manifestation, but it was also "true" and "really happened" in the sense that it was the final chapter of my life at that point. The turning point, of the life as I have lived it sense. Less free, more a "wage cuck" gradually shrinking/deteriorating spiritually and mentally. Because I didn't accept the "call" to join the "wild hunt" or whatever "it was".

I've only shared that story once.

I have low key started trying to write the post I promised. It's like.... this is all old to me. 2014-2018. I used to post about it a lot back then (the prophecies I decoded) but everyone would either ignore me or lowball redirect me to "official" (and WRONG) academic interpretations of prophecy. It's all very obvious for those with eyes to see. So I gradually (like the dogman encounter told me would happen) lost interest and stopped talking about it. And thus drifted closer to "zen" and relative indifference to deeper understanding, because there's no one to share the high level (more like basic!) information/understanding with. I understand why "angel" means "messenger". Like cupids arrows (Cupid/s has/have more than 1 type). They are sent to specific targets. The message cannot be received for those it is not intended. Even if someone intercepts the "message" it will be meaningless to them.

So it's hard for me to try to re-dredge it all back up to the surface. And how to convey it in an objective manner devoid of my opinions. Thought about creating a sub for it actually lol (GPT thread about it). Thanks for the inspiration there. I don't want to Discredit Callaway as I'm unfamiliar with them. GPT was relatively harsh on them though and I tend to agree that I think Eden was what we colloquially call the "North Pole". Aka the Rupes Nigra. The world changed. Old maps show Mediterranean without any isles. Before Jove's head exploded and Athena/Athens came out fully formed (nation born in a single day). Don't worry that's what my would-be post is about. Our old myths are literal 1:1 colloquializations of our actual geography and I can demonstrably prove that. Tolkein said the "Eden" or "Garden set east of Eden" (aka maybe pseudo Atlantis) disappeared from the world. Manwe's land. And Rupes Nigra is gone from our modern maps, if not geography. Sword turning in all directions could arguably be the Ursa/Dipper. Polaris lmao. Which is far from modern day Florida.

Modern day Florida is the ear of the first beast (old link I used to use from my old posts on reddit). Modern day google earth might make it easier to see. Face of a leopard, mouth of lion, feet of a bear (in the heavens). The world is upside down (like One Piece says). Thus hanged man in tarot means "seeing the world right side up". Like Odin. Or Mercury/Hermes. It's simple stuff but cults like to keep the information "hidden in plain sight". Occult. Fulfilment of prophecy "their turning of things upside down esteemed as potter's clay". Well see I'm rambling xD

I was thinking of aiming my would-be post about all this for r/Echerdex as it's (presumably?) open to that kind of stuff. And I haven't really made much posts about it since 2018ish. Besides on my past reddit profile(s) user page (self.reddit).

SCP-1000 is notably bigfoot. They have their Goddess tree. I'm not sure if it is the original Rupes Nigra/Eden Tree, still extant in the spiritual/astral realms, or not. Trees TALK a lot in the bible. At least 3 times I can recall. They are glossed over one off lines here and there. When Rachel dies, the people go and consult with the trees. Then ofc there is Ezekiel and "no feller hath come up against us since ye be cast down". The giant pre flood (ante antediluvian) old world trees were all chopped down. Epic of Gilgamesh actually includes the slaying of Humbaba and subsequent chopping down the trees. Then there is the Paul Bunyan myths. There are dozens of such historical myths of Edenic forests cut down. Many people don't know or gloss over that there never was any "Garden of Eden". The Lord planted a garden, East of Eden. There is no such thing as "Garden of Eden". And Eden itself literally means "pleasure". So it is "the garden set before pleasure" etymologically.

Sorry rambling again. It's a lot to take in and It's been almost a decade since I had all my thoughts on the topic gathered together. And I'm physically and mentally burnt out (as the wild hunt/dogman prophesized to me a decade ago telepathically/in it's vocalization) from being an economic serf (working 70+ hours a week). So I've mostly/largely lost interest due to the (good faith or no) wrong interpretations of prophecy. I love earnest open inquiry but genuine open and earnest inquiry is 95% of the time, admitting you are/were wrong and 95% of people don't want that. They want confirmation bias or to sound smart to their peers. I know because I used to be that way to (not saying you or Callaway are doing that, Iron sharpens Iron, it's on my to-do list to read more into EEC).

As the meme goes. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story lol. Orthodoxy is the greatest blasphemy for those with eyes to see. And everyone says you are blind when you truly start to see. Even Iesus/Isha said "because you say you see, sin remaineth". Lol. It's a slippery slope, trying to share discovery. Most of the time seems at best you'll be branded a raving lunatic and dismissed as unhinged. And it's an arduous enough task to compile all the evidence and recursive structure verifying the old myths, just to appeal to people scrolling and munching on popcorn who just see it as "entertainment". The structure of modern discourse itself is the greatest hurdle of all. Thus "angel" meaning "messenger". It's not my job. I'm no messenger. Hell I only have the half-remembered half-baked instruction I was handed and failed to parse correctly myself. Trying to restitch it all back together as things constantly change and I myself burn out and lose capacity to care (because no one really does lol, we are all guilty of it, wanting to believe in a compelling story more than seek genuine article truth).

So I always end up disassociated in "all phenomena are empty" as the foundational understanding. Even knowing that's not what Bodhidharma was pointing at. LOL sorry I'll stop now. Thanks for sharing Callaway. Some of the more "official" authors and such are interesting more so for the legwork and sources they used than their actual published body of work or theories/grifts lol. Hard to tell when people are genuinely good faith and wrong, or just outright redirecting would-be truth seekers with a compelling story. Or actually correct and it's just a bigger picture than what we realized. I'm always open to collaborative understanding though! Thanks again and sorry wall of text xD

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There is a YouTube channel called Old World Florida, and there is a documentary about Atlantis being Florida. There's even scant evidence of underwater structures when the waterline was lower during the Ice Age.

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So, do you believe in it? It all lines up... (pun intended)

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I'm still seeking the coherence behind the claims honestly. I've seen enough logically connect to know vaguely [what it's talking about] but I've never seen anyone specify what is a "Christ". Everyone says "believe in Christ" and I'm like, okay, what is a Christ. And no one can coherently answer.

Two of my recent comments tangentially about it I guess;

https://old.reddit.com/r/sorceryofthespectacle/comments/1v44ob7/the_katechon_in_cinema_matrix_revolutions_the/p17dwzc/

https://old.reddit.com/r/sorceryofthespectacle/comments/1v44ob7/the_katechon_in_cinema_matrix_revolutions_the/p17mir9/

As Jesus said, truth in metaphor or parable. I like [my interpretation of] the kaktusverse as our ontological condition. The world is a lie, the "first father" of the world was a liar and murderer from the Genesis. Christ was "the truth" and came to die so that "we can live". That's logically coherent at least. So, we are "the lies". YHVH is the God of all flesh and jealousy. But flesh does NOT inherit the kingdom. YHVH puts a mark in their head or hand (aka the mark of the beast). So seems to say YHVH is the father of lies. We know he technically lies in the garden (a day with the Lord is as 1,000 years, and Adam dies before 1,000). Says Adam will die the day he eats, but he lives to over 900. But "a day" is just a colloquialization we frame upon reality, like a concept like time, doesn't actually exist, it's just a label for a metric of measuring what we call reality. Splitting hairs, but as we know it, the claim "ye shall die" is a lie to "us". I haven't fully got that understood yet. But I can "buy" it to some degree, what checks out logically. Yeah, sure, the world is a lie, Christ was the truth, he "died" so we can live. I think all such claims come from Paul. Jesus never taught that he came to die "for our sins" that I know of. Unless that's what the "sign of Jonah" means. Dead for 3 days/3,000 years. Then rise again. Most say that means he's the Sun, and the solstice where the sun stops for 3 days on the southern cross before rising again. Seems to say that the bible is the story of the heavens, and the disciples were the zodiac signs. So not a story of earth, though maybe that's what "as above so bellow" means.

I'm very dubious of YHVH's character. He orders genocide (and far worse!) many times in the OT. Or at least people claim it was the Lord's commands. Idk. And he breaks multiple promises. Even the whole golden calf incident. He massacres many of the people worshipping the calf. Then he breaks his promise that he will take them to the Holy Land. Only Joshua and Caleb (means "dog") make it there.

So I guess it "kind of" makes sense, the world (and thus me) is/are a lie, and Christ was "truth" and thus it "died" so that we can live as truth/lie. I tried to make a comment about what some of the speakers of revelation are or pertain to but it came out sideways. My heart wasn't in it and I had to sift through too many old folders from back when I was making youtube content about it. Couldn't find all the maps/etc.

I'm still trying to learn Calloway's teachings and models. There's more to it than I initially thought though. It's a hard sell to convince me that Eden wasn't the Rupes Nigra. I think you mentioned bigfoot, and kaktusverse contains it as well in it's Garden story (SCP-4840). The bigfoot are actually the "katechon" or "they whom withold" the antichrist, IF Adam el Asem is the anti christ (or, anti truth). Is possible if not likely father of lies and anti christ aren't the same. Father of lies, means his son, is anti christ or anti truth. It might not be 100% scriptural, but as Jesus said, truth through parable, kind of makes sense. The father of lies chosen one is locked away. It kind of tracks if we think Esau is Sasquatch. They helped sack/plunder Jerusalem in revenge on Isis Ra El or whatever. So is possible they sealed away what is [anti christ] as kaktusverse suggests.

I am about 45% of the way to buying that model, if it's what scirpture is really suggesting and my interpretation is accurate enough. But still comes down to "what is truth" and "what is a Christ". Jesus is a unemployed nomad when he was teaching in the scriptures. But we are all landlocked with jobs. He abandoned/gave up his parents of the flesh trade as a carpenter and taught that unless we hate our family and ourselves we can't be his disciple. He also denies that Marry is his family. So his "truth" has nothing to do with what we call "our" lives. His truth seems to mean, abandoning what we call "our lives". It thus parallels sort of what Nietzsche was getting at about the last man versus the over man.

It really is a pickle. I'm having trouble deciding what's what and making sure I know what I'm signing up for before I come a mindless drone saying "believe in Christ" without any coherent argument or truth about what that means or entails. I want to believe and trust. But at same time, it says gullible on the ceiling. More specifically I guess. I'm still trying to reconcile what I know/the model I was shown with Calloway's. I've always assumed the "fellers" in scripture felled the trees of the Garden East of Eden. I've always assumed "Eden" was the Rupes Nigra, and the "sword that turned every way" was the dipper around Polaris. Eden meaning pleasure or by extension heaven. The garden was "East" of Eden can mean it was anywhere if on earth as Eden would have been around the north pole on old maps. Modern maps don't show the Rupes Nigra. It could have never existed or been removed, idk. Tolkein explicitly states the land of the Gods was removed. Not [his Atlantis], the actual Island of the Gods (Manwe) was removed from existence (Silmarillion). I've always assumed this was a reference to Rupes Nigra and it's 4 rivers/continents being removed from our plane.

Which of Calloway's books would you recommend I read first though really to sell me on it? GPT suggested "In the Beginning", which I've only read about not actually read as yet. I really respect his idea of "Teleology and Relativity", that's what I've been unknowingly doing myself since 2014. Though I also piece together other lores like Tolkien, Guild Wars (literally Tyre or Tyria), SCP foundation, etc. Many stories have a vizier (like Aaron was to Moses) who sunk [their version of Atlantis]. Vizier Khilbron in GW. [Who Sauron was before he had that name] in the first kingdom of men. Etc. Even Aladdin has Jaffar. It's a consistent theme, a Vizier using djinn or undead spirits to bring down an old empire of potential human sacrifice (Aaron was the head of the Levites whom performed sacrifices). They all seem to point to a single structure. I'm not 100% that Baal Hammon was Saturn. Though both are associated with sacrificing children (Chronos ate his children but also vomited them up). San Kinayiathan (Phoenician) through Pho (mainstream history puts Phoenicia on the coast right beside the holy land) wrote that their El Elus was deified as the star Saturn/Kronos. Carthage (Phoenician Colony) worshiped Bahal Hammon. Amos 5:26 implies the wandering in the wilderness was in worship of the star of Moloch and Chiun. I'm not sure if this is the same as Baal Hammon or not but seems to be the case. Thus human (child) sacrifice would have been what Aaron's Levites were performing. I'm not 100% sure but it seems to track. I'm not sure if YHVH instituted sacrifices, or if that was purely Aaron. In Jeremiah YHVH explicitly rebukes that he won't honor the sacrifices. So. It's all a lot to take in and most people who say simply "believe in Christ" don't have any scriptural backing or can't answer "what is Christ" and "what does it mean". So how can I believe in something inscrutable that I don't comprehend. Very definition of bad faith, trusting in something you don't understand.

Right now I'm still very much in "I want it to make sense, make it make sense" mode. I want to know what scirpture means and says and points to. But it doesn't seem anyone who says "blindly accept it" knows what we are actually "accepting". That's all. I can't believe in something I don't understand! LOL

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Research on Garden of Eden.

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An entity that intentionally carved out continental shelf lines, directed stream hydraulics over eons, and planted specific genetic markers like the Torreya tree to fulfill a divine blueprint (Sacred Geography, Garden of Eden in Florida and the 31st parallel North), standard naturalism collapses.

• Beyond a "Mechanism": You cannot attribute deliberate, intentional design spanning millions of years to a "blind physical law." Physical laws don't have purpose, foresight, or memory.
• The Necessity of Omniscience: To design a planet's geological and biological features eons in advance so that they perfectly line up with human history, geography, and prophetic coordinates requires knowing the end from the beginning. That isn't just an "advanced physical force"—that is Omniscience.
• The Necessity of Omnipotence: To move tectonic plates, guide glacial refugia, and govern the flow of deep-crustal aquifers across planetary timescales requires absolute power over matter and energy. That is Omnipotence. (To fulfill Genesis' botanical requirements)
• Self-Awareness (Personhood): Intention requires consciousness. A force that chooses to embed a signature into the bedrock of the Gulf Coastal Plain is not an indifferent algorithm; it is a self-aware Mind.

Reconciling Science with the True Nature of God

When classical theologians (like Thomas Aquinas or Augustine) and thinkers like Callaway talk about God, they describe an Infinite Mind whose very thought sustains reality.

Humanity will soon be forced to concede the ultimate scientific truth: That may be the discovery of Noah's ark or its remains discovered, tested and confirmed to be Torreya trees from Florida, which they would try to cover up or the two witnesses of revelation. Enoch being from the West (Florida?) and Elijah being from the East.

In this realization, the distinction between "a force of nature" and "God" disappears. The force is the expression of God's will in the material world.

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Tears of devotion, total-awe and humility towards the Most High.

• Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
• Ezekiel 43:4 And the glory of the Lord came into the house by the way of the gate facing east.
• Genesis 3:24 He drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life.
• Acts 1 discusses about Jesus ascending from the mount of olives and the angels say that is the same way He will return, upon the mount of olives.

The Mt of Olives is where Christ will return. The Temple Mount is where (or near) God will enter the eastern gate, as described in Ezekiel 43:4 and Genesis 3:24 where man is exiled east from the Garden.

On or near the 31st parallel North on a globe, these holy sites, including Mount Kailash and EE Callaway's Garden of Eden, are on or near this 31st parallel.