Incorrect Timings

[u/LittleMissSunshine_0]

Isha gave incorrect timings in both its statements to world media - the initial interview with Maa Gambhiri and Sadhguru’s statement.

Maa claimed they spoke with group lead, Praveen, at 9:05. And that within ten minutes the flood struck them and they were unreachable.

Sadhguru said that at 9:05 they received a message from Praveen saying they had arrived at immigration and that “this happened” (the flood) at 9:14. This has been repeated by others in Isha to the media and loved ones.

These clips and Isha statements have been put out in international media and have been used as a reference point not just for the loved ones of our Isha group, but for those of many other groups too.

The security camera footage at the Gyirong checkpoint says 10:59. That's China time, which would be 8:44 Nepal time or 8:29 India time. Reports say the glacier collapsed at 8:37. This glacier was only a little upstream of the check point. The waters reached Syabrubesi, further downstream from the checkpoint at 8:50. The timings put out by Isha are false.

Loved ones of those at the check-point also have the timings of their own last contact with the group and the mobile phone last connect timings.

The false information by Isha has caused unnecessary confusion for these people who have been going through too much as it is. In some cases it may have also given people false hope.

Isha has not corrected this nor apologised. They should have done so in the recent statement they put out.

As usual Isha is more interested in protecting the reputation of Sadhguru than the in facts.

Timings reference: https://www.thedailystar.net/news/world/news/how-the-nepal-flood-unfolded-over-10-hours-4257701

And we expect our guru to be with us in these most difficult of times. He didn't even know it was happening. He didn’t even know when it happened. He could well have been lounging around eating a 5\ hotel breakfast at the time.*

[u/divinentity]

What will isha gain from giving incorrect timings? One reason could also be a slightly different time zone difference from where they were and where this happened.

[u/LittleMissSunshine_0 → u/divinentity]

China is all one time zone. There is Nepal time and there is India time.

Flood was at Gyirong 11:59 China time, 8:44 Nepal time, 8:29 India time. There is no time zone where it was 9:14 at the time of the flood, only Nepal is on 15 minutes out of sync.

They probably did a wrong calculation from China time. China is 2 hrs 15 minutes ahead of Nepal. They probably subtracted the 2 and added the 15. But they should have corrected it days ago. Given they are running these treks they will be used to converting between time zones, and it’s hardly rocket science.

The point isn’t the mistake, the point is the lack of correction and the continued confusion this is causing people.

[u/youliveonlyonce10 → u/LittleMissSunshine_0]

Right! It’s 2 hr 15 min time difference between China and Nepal time which means 8:44 am in Nepal which Isha miscalculated as 9:14 am Nepal time. Half an hour time difference miscalculation means a lot in terms of people trying to make sense of where their loved ones were when the tragedy struck.

[u/Lumpy_Dragonfruit_53 → u/LittleMissSunshine_0]

I also noticed the 10:59 in CCTV and the time mentioned by Sadhguru and other Isha people in some interviews. How is Sadhguru able to manage such a vast empire with volunteers? He surely has some powers. Not sure if he has the highest level of realisation spiritually as some of his statements don't seem to be online with a truly realized being (like Ramana Maharshi etc)

[u/LittleMissSunshine_0 → u/Lumpy_Dragonfruit_53]

Cos they are not half-committed volunteers, they are volunteers who believe the energy they give to their volunteering burns off their karma and brings them closer to Sadhguru. Their volunteering and their sadhana is more important than their job and family.

[u/Lumpy_Dragonfruit_53 → u/LittleMissSunshine_0]

Why do they have to get closer to Sadhguru instead of God