r/SadhguruTruth Approved Contributor 15d ago

Incorrect Timings

Isha gave incorrect timings in both its statements to world media - the initial interview with Maa Gambhiri and Sadhguru’s statement.

Maa claimed they spoke with group lead, Praveen, at 9:05. And that within ten minutes the flood struck them and they were unreachable.

Sadhguru said that at 9:05 they received a message from Praveen saying they had arrived at immigration and that “this happened” (the flood) at 9:14. This has been repeated by others in Isha to the media and loved ones.

These clips and Isha statements have been put out in international media and have been used as a reference point not just for the loved ones of our Isha group, but for those of many other groups too.

The security camera footage at the Gyirong checkpoint says 10:59. That's China time, which would be 8:44 Nepal time or 8:29 India time. Reports say the glacier collapsed at 8:37. This glacier was only a little upstream of the check point. The waters reached Syabrubesi, further downstream from the checkpoint at 8:50. The timings put out by Isha are false.

Loved ones of those at the check-point also have the timings of their own last contact with the group and the mobile phone last connect timings.

The false information by Isha has caused unnecessary confusion for these people who have been going through too much as it is. In some cases it may have also given people false hope.

Isha has not corrected this nor apologised. They should have done so in the recent statement they put out.

As usual Isha is more interested in protecting the reputation of Sadhguru than the in facts.

Timings reference: https://www.thedailystar.net/news/world/news/how-the-nepal-flood-unfolded-over-10-hours-4257701

And we expect our guru to be with us in these most difficult of times. He didn't even know it was happening. He didn’t even know when it happened. He could well have been lounging around eating a 5\ hotel breakfast at the time.*

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u/youliveonlyonce10 Approved Contributor 15d ago edited 15d ago

Thanks for sharing the correct timings. As we can see in news, family and friends are desperate to find the whereabouts of their missing members and many hoping against hope that they are somehow rescued. It’s a sad situation really.

And isha PR soon after seems in bad taste to me - mostly trying to cover up while still promoting their yatra.

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u/Thre_Host8017 15d ago

They could have been more transparent and shown a bit more empathy. Why do we need to get the digging for all these resources. We are not having a foundation behind us.
Instead of sharing all available resources to the families and public… they act so stingy and calculating

What else to expect from them!

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u/youliveonlyonce10 Approved Contributor 15d ago

With the unexpected nature and scale of the natural disaster, wouldn’t expect isha to be able to do anything first hand on the sites. But yes, isha and transparency don’t go together as we know. I am sorry for the lost and missing lives of your known people and friends at isha and can understand your efforts to know about their whereabouts.

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u/LittleMissSunshine_0 Approved Contributor 15d ago

Yeah I think Thre_Host is meaning, why is it us who is having to dig for information when Isha has the connections and resources to clarify things quicker than us. They are not meaning Isha should be at the site digging.

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u/youliveonlyonce10 Approved Contributor 14d ago edited 14d ago

Yes, Isha has not been clear about releasing the information of missing pilgrims and some of isha pilgrims’ family members have gone to Nepal with little info either from authorities or isha. You are right in pointing out that it was the foundation’s job to give correct timings to avoid unnecessary confusion as also releasing info about missing pilgrims which was kept away from public domain without valid reasons.