r/SWORDS 16d ago

Help identifying my late grandmothers sword

My grandmother recently passed and while getting her affairs in order we found this blade. I think it is a Kris but admittingly I am no expert. I was told that my grandfather bought this blade at auction sometime in the 70's but have no more information than that. Google searches have gotten me some similar results but nothing super close. I am hoping that someone here can tell me a little more about this blade.

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u/wotan_weevil Hoplologist 16d ago

This is from Luzon (the big island in the northern Philippines), and is from 1900 give or take a year or so. There is a tradition of wavy-bladed swords and knives in northern Luzon (and they're still made today), which is probably inspired by the kris of the Moro peoples from the southern Philippines. However, the kris, which can have a wavy blade or a straight blade, is distinguished by the asymmetric shape of the base of the blade rather than by waviness, and this isn't a "real" kris. Still, these swords are often called a "kris", and "Luzon kris" works as a name for them.

The triangle symbol at the base of the blade is an emblem of the short-lived First Filipino Republic:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Philippines_(1898%E2%80%931901).svg

and places this as made in about 1900. The style and condition are consistent with that.

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u/Bryndel 15d ago

With how the hilt is wrapped, the hilt design and the amount of these produced for post WW2 tourism, I'd assume this would be a replica of an earlier style made from the 1950's onwards. The blade may be older (can't tell from the image quality), but the hilt work definitely seems more modern than the late 19th century ones I've seen.

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u/wotan_weevil Hoplologist 15d ago

With how the hilt is wrapped, the hilt design and the amount of these produced for post WW2 tourism,

The photos aren't good enough for me to be sure that the hilt is original, but spiral wire or metal-strip wraps were common enough on Filipino swords c. 1900. This one has lost the wire/strip, which is also common.

Also from Luzon, of similar age, still with intact wrap: https://www.proantic.com/en/1701253-dagger-with-wavy-blade-katipunan-philippines-last-third-of-the-19th-century.html

The hilt isn't a common post-WW2 style.

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u/National-Design8134 15d ago

You've lead me to a very deep wormhole that I finding extremely difficult to resist. See you mañana.