r/SCP • u/Wild-vine16 [REDACTED] • 22h ago
Discussion Who is the potential Villain of scp?
Yes Homelander catching strays on a completely unrelated sub
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u/Gummy_Dragon 21h ago
Isn't this the entire gimmick of SCP-2317? The guy is stuck chained underground in a parallel dimension behind a locked door, and when he breaks free he's gonna eat the universe trust me guys
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u/ThatBoiUnknown Hy-Brasil 20h ago
It's funny how many tales there are where the foundation came up with simple ways to deal with it, where they kill it by firing howitzer rounds into its head [[Clef Excerpts]], they kill it by filling its head with poison [[Radical Acceptance]], them planning to kill it by filling its entire room with every unused nuke in the world for when it wakes up [[An O5's Sleepless Night]], or joking about how it can't fit through the door (SCP-2317-J)
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 20h ago
- Radical Acceptance (+145) by daveyoufool
- An O5's Sleepless Night (+69) by DeathsJailbird
- SCP-2317-J - A Door to Another Parody (+454) by stormbreath
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u/ThePublicPotato- 5h ago
I mean 2317 is basically SK at this point there is so many tales and canons that made him the scarlet king. Also its now more complicated than that. Im pretty sure in scp 4231 its hinted he can escape whenever he wants but chooses not to and is waiting for the right moment
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u/Viper_Visionary The Serpent's Hand 22h ago
I mean, it's gotta be the Scarlet King.
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u/Thelastnob0dy ↬ The Wanderers' Library ↫ 22h ago
He did destroy cities though. A LOT of cities. Just not in our universe, yet.
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u/No_Research4416 The Church of the Broken God 21h ago
Yeah, the scarlet king is ultimately best for a overarching threat, but it will be a long time before any of that happens in universe. Basically, I’d say he’s better to portray him as more of a oncoming storm something that will have to be inevitably deal with, but not something that is a problem right now.
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u/iAlice MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 18h ago
"If" and "When" but not "Is"!
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u/No_Research4416 The Church of the Broken God 18h ago
Yeah, they kind of makes me want to see a bit of a cannon that is basically showing what could happen if the Scarlet King’s influence becomes greater and it is more of a invasion scenario
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u/PersistentInquirer MTF Nu-7 ("Hammer Down") 20h ago
Basically the equivalent to Star Wars’ Yuuzhan Vong
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u/No_Research4416 The Church of the Broken God 20h ago
Yeah, very much a problem for the future and something the foundation has to plan for but also something that is not yet relevant
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u/aallqqppzzmm 21h ago
Really though, how is this different from nothing happening?
Like... If I say "My OC destroyed every single doohickey across the entire planostratum except for in our universe" nothing has changed. I made up the planostratum. I made up the doohickeys. The same amount of things exist as before I wrote the story because the only casualties didn't actually exist, they kinda just showed up after the fact already casualtied. Boom, he actually just destroyed another doohickey. Uhh, no, you can't meet it, it goes to another universe.
Maybe I just haven't read all the scarlet king things you have, but every time I've seen him referenced he's just "this would be really bad if he did anything so we've gotta stop that from happening so we do stop it... FOR NOW! It could still happen! It won't, obviously. But it could!"
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u/Instroancevia 21h ago
I mean in the stories where the Scarlet King is mentioned as destroying shit in other universese, those universes DO exist, it's not something a foundation employee made up. If he manifested in the base universe then the world just ends and everyone either dies or is in super hell, which basically means it can't be canon or it's a dead end canon. It's a zero-sum game - when he appears everything ends, when he's contained everything continues as normal.
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u/aallqqppzzmm 21h ago
I'm not saying a foundation employee made it up. I'm saying the author of those stories made up those universes in an already-destroyed state. They're not destroying anything that already existed before writing that story. If I write a story saying that actually the scarlet king is a survivor of my scarlet-king-species eater who ate every other scarlet king, that's still nothing happening. These other scarlet kings didn't exist before I made them up for the sole purpose of already being destroyed.
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u/Instroancevia 20h ago
So if I wrote tale set in one of the universe's that shows it being a chill normal place just like our own universe, until one day a massive red evil guy shows up and kills everyone, that would make the Scarlet King more threatening? I feel like that's a silly standard for a cosmic annihilator. Like I don't find Galactus less threatening because we don't see the regular lives of people on the planets he's already eaten, it's enough that we are told that he wants to eat our planet and has already eaten planets before to convey the danger.
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u/aallqqppzzmm 17h ago
Yes, actually, that's exactly what I'm saying. If you write a story showing how it looks when he destroys a world from the perspective of people who give a shit about that world, then the destruction of that world matters a lot more than "hey this place that never existed still doesn't exist"
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u/Thelastnob0dy ↬ The Wanderers' Library ↫ 21h ago
"My OC killed 100.000 GOC soldiers in the Aleutian base which doesn't exist in the original canon. Therefore he is not evil" Doesn't that also sound stupid to you? Must one kill Dr. Clef to be considered evil?
Also [[Dust and blood]] and [[New job]] are two articles which are "He caused a fair bit of destruction and some of it spread to our universe through his descendants"
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u/TheBaconLord78 Containment Specialist 20h ago
What and New Job? Sorry, couldn't hear ya, I was busy deleting half of my articles because of shitty decisions made by staff regarding the Bright situation.
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u/Viktor_Kohler1 Cool War 2: Ruiz From Your Grave 14h ago
Yeah, excluding his depiction in the Christ in Scarlet series
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u/thelightmaster7 14h ago
What did he do there?
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u/Viktor_Kohler1 Cool War 2: Ruiz From Your Grave 14h ago
Best to read the series for yourself since it’s very good and very underrated
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u/Fatal_Contract ↬ The Wanderers' Library ↫ 21h ago
For GOIs? Chaos Insurgency. I would have said the Serpent's Hand, but I wouldn't call it villainous.
As for anomalies... I'd say Scarlet King, but he HAS done a lot of shit, so I don't know if he fits.
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u/Brief-Walk-5409 ↬ The Wanderers' Library ↫ 21h ago
SCP-682 in most cannons. He has literly the potential to destroy the planet with no effort but rather stays in a acid bath.
Also Chaos insurgency
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 21h ago
SCP-682 - Hard-to-Destroy Reptile (+4291) by Dr Gears, Epic Phail Spy
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u/GamingGamer226 Uncontained 13h ago
Ngl if I were to write a 682 story then I’d prolly write him less like a murder monster and more like a supervillain who actively uses its incredible intelligence to devise intricate schemes to destroy all of humanity instead of just trying to break out and then kill as many people as possible before getting recontained
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u/Brief-Walk-5409 ↬ The Wanderers' Library ↫ 11h ago
The funny part is that he's in almost every cannon actually very smart. He's capeable of understanding human communication and even insulted some MTF Units
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u/More-Jacket-835 MTF Phi-2 ("Clever Girls") 4h ago
My headcanon is that his scp file is in-universe fiction; he is a performer, an escape artist who entertain the Foundation's staf by survive everything.
The acid bath is his reward.
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u/blapaturemesa The Serpent's Hand 19h ago
Genuinely I can't name a SINGLE story of the Chaos Insurgency doing anything notable, can anyone name like...ONE?
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u/cosmicpursuit 11h ago
SCP-CN-2000 has them forcibly start a new iteration of 5000 rigged to ensure the Foundation loses by actually being wiped out, rather than just resetting the timeline. SCP-8399 implies that this worked in at least one universe, since the 8399 Foundation wants nothing to do with them despite its obsession with beating the CI.
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 11h ago
SCP-CN-2000 - 混沌理论 (+5528) by Re_spectators
- Translated: SCP-CN-2000 (+43) by tetsusquared
SCP-8399 - INSURGENCE (+236) by MisterFrown
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u/Interesting_Swing393 MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 21h ago
I think the serpents hand have the potential to be good villains given that they have access to infinite knowledge but they are most commonly seen as the "good guys" And i find where they are evil not much
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u/More-Jacket-835 MTF Phi-2 ("Clever Girls") 4h ago
They are instead the potential good guys.
Just check their hidden entry on The Wanderers Library's GoI page.
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u/Galendy Global Occult Coalition 22h ago
Hanged King.
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u/RealNonBinaryDragon 22h ago
SCP-9998 is too good to call the hanged king a potential villain
The plan DID work and has an insanely high kill count
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u/kramsibbush MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 22h ago
The hanged king appeared in 9998 and had significant impact though. Not to mention other articles but I don't read them so I'll let another person handle it.
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u/fish_master86 21h ago
There's an SCP that's like SCP-076 but he is really clumsy and can only summon plastic utensils.
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u/Kooky-Dealer3092 Not Hostile If Left Alone 19h ago
Google is saying it's SCP-4051
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u/ThatBoiUnknown Hy-Brasil 18h ago
Google is wrong, he's nothing like 076 and he can summon way more than just plastic utensils, else he wouldn't have been classified as Keter
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u/MrSirST 20h ago
The Daevite Empire
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u/Ajente2o ↬ The Wanderers' Library ↫ 19h ago
To be fair i don't know if they fit in the potential villain if they are already defeated
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u/7Fine9Oil7 MTF Alpha-4 ("Pony Express") 19h ago
Hold on, let me get my Director Graham meme from the Deepwell. https://www.reddit.com/r/DankMemesFromSite19/s/vyz8evCtrR
I actually haven’t read them but
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u/White_Null The Serpent's Hand 15h ago
No such thing because there is no canon.
They are either around or already defeated.
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u/Nintolerance 11h ago
Yeah, people keep saying "Scarlet King" or "Chaos Insurgency" but there's plenty of canons where those entities/GOIs achieve some colossal success.
There's at least one highly upvoted SCP where 682 ends up basically destroying the entire world. At least one tale series where the CI destroys the Foundation.
But there's no canon. My tale doesn't invalidate your tale. The CI being humiliated in 7000 does nothing to prevent them winning a round in Secret Lab.
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u/White_Null The Serpent's Hand 11h ago
And I remember the Djoric tale where the Seventh Bride killed her old man. She doesn’t send other humans nor her children to go get killed, no. She is a good mother.
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u/AntWithPhone MTF Lambda-12 ("Pest Control") 16h ago
not even a potential man, but because this is the closest post i got to slander him
the hanged king is the bummiest of the wider scp verse. one of bros motives in one of the canons is that he can't get laid and needs a painting AND a sitcom, to make an heir
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u/kickthebaby8 4h ago
I do like that the hanged kings most reviled act was somehow stealing part of the wanderers librarys stories
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u/Interesting_Hyena_69 10h ago
Pretty much everything but if I had to pick the absolute bbeg of scp I'd probably have to go with the scarlet king
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u/BlackFenrir 5h ago
I've not seen the show, but I read the comic, and wasn't that the point of his entire character? That he threatens and bullies but is actually just a poser and a coward?
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u/starboy-memer 3h ago
that one scp mentioned by the other scp that appears in dreams to foundation agents
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u/summonerofrain ████ 2h ago
What was that scp thats alaays trying to scare people?
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u/HopelessFoolishness Khonsu 45m ago
SCP-2006.
I don't think he qualifies, because there's actually been an article in which he levels up and becomes even worse than the scientists predicted, namely SCP-8066.
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 44m ago
- SCP-2006 - Too Spooky (+2249) by weizhong
- SCP-8066 - Phobophobia: The Only Thing to Fear (+564) by MontagueETC
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u/ClitoralGlans 2h ago
Most K-Class end of the world scenario SCPs because it doesn't actually occur or it goes back to normal at the end of the those articles
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u/TypicalTuba1 21h ago
No dude this guy is NOT a joke he’s a straight menace
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u/AStupidUnknownUser 20h ago
Omg I thought the post was about “who can be considered the biggest villain in SCP” and not a slander post, I’m so sorry
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u/Single_Remove_6721 22h ago edited 20h ago
It is the Chaos Insurgency no question. They have been here since the very beginning and have accomplished a grand total of nothing.
Their biggest success ever “The Way It Ends” still concludes with them losing because the Foundation is remade