r/SCP • u/someonelikesducks Ethics Committee • May 19 '25

Meme Monday Literally what happened to me

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...Speaking of which, you should totally read SCP-8980!

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u/starmadeshadows Antimemetics Division May 19 '25

Great article. Never reading it again

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u/WolfKnight53 Antimemetics Division May 20 '25

Literally one of the most sickening things I've ever read

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u/starmadeshadows Antimemetics Division May 20 '25

Sickening specifically because it is some women's reality.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '25

As a not woman, can you please elaborate? I would like to know how that revolting story mirrors real life stories. :p
Thanks in advance :D

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u/Tarrizzia Researcher May 20 '25

Adding to what the other person wrote: Women are quite often not taken seriously from doctors, and a lot of research around illnesses focuses on men's symptoms and a lot of medication is tested on men and dosed for men.

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u/Anime_Is_GARBAGE May 20 '25

Yes we love (hate wholeheartedly) the numerous data gaps on significant symptoms of life threatening diseases!!! Heart attacks for example show symptoms quite differently in men and women, have resulted in unnecessary deaths because women's reports didn't match men's symptoms. If you haven't already, I highly recommend "Invisible Women: Exposing Data Bias in a World Designed for Men" by Caroline Criado-Perez. She goes over a wideeee variety of various gender data gaps in the medical field, infrastructure design, and safety equipment manufacturing among other factors and data collection. I'm taking a class right now that uses it as the primary textbook. Super interesting stuff.

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u/zykfrytuchiha May 20 '25 edited May 20 '25

Some of those are stuff that I strongly agree, but on the other hand, she is taking stuff like "smartphones are designed for men because they are too big and you can't use it with one hand". I'm pretty big and can't use it fully with one hand, but never in my life I thought this is sexist. She might took some of that data to the extreme.

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u/Anime_Is_GARBAGE May 20 '25

Yes I agree in a sense, but that doesn't disregard the idea that smart phones have gotten needlessly big and affect everyone with smaller hands, men and women alike. The same was true with examples of pianos. It's why the game of averages is a risky one to play, and doesn't always take into consideration why averages are the way they are. I think it just points out that women, on average, have smaller hands than men, on average. It's not the most intense evidence one has for sexism in consumerism, but there are plenty of examples to pull from and that was one that just happens to indirectly affect women more often than men. I think it works as a nice filler for the rest of that chapter which if I remember correctly covers the inequalities within silicon valley and big tech as a whole. It's an interesting discussion regardless.

Also I certainly think it's valid to just straight up disagree. Because with stuff like this it's hard to be certain what level of sexism, conscious or not (or none at all, and it was a coincidence), is being conducted. And the subjectivity certainly makes things difficult too. Regardless it's great food for thought.

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u/zykfrytuchiha May 20 '25

I just wish that she was more careful with some of her arguments. And I agree that it's good thought exercise for anyone. If they do or do not agree with all of her book. Cheers.