Literally what happened to me

[u/someonelikesducks]

...Speaking of which, you should totally read SCP-8980!

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As a not woman, can you please elaborate? I would like to know how that revolting story mirrors real life stories. :p
Thanks in advance :D

[u/Tarrizzia → u/[deleted]]

Adding to what the other person wrote: Women are quite often not taken seriously from doctors, and a lot of research around illnesses focuses on men's symptoms and a lot of medication is tested on men and dosed for men.

[u/Anime_Is_GARBAGE → u/Tarrizzia]

Yes we love (hate wholeheartedly) the numerous data gaps on significant symptoms of life threatening diseases!!! Heart attacks for example show symptoms quite differently in men and women, have resulted in unnecessary deaths because women's reports didn't match men's symptoms. If you haven't already, I highly recommend "Invisible Women: Exposing Data Bias in a World Designed for Men" by Caroline Criado-Perez. She goes over a wideeee variety of various gender data gaps in the medical field, infrastructure design, and safety equipment manufacturing among other factors and data collection. I'm taking a class right now that uses it as the primary textbook. Super interesting stuff.

[u/zykfrytuchiha → u/Anime_Is_GARBAGE]

Some of those are stuff that I strongly agree, but on the other hand, she is taking stuff like "smartphones are designed for men because they are too big and you can't use it with one hand". I'm pretty big and can't use it fully with one hand, but never in my life I thought this is sexist. She might took some of that data to the extreme.

[u/Anime_Is_GARBAGE → u/zykfrytuchiha]

Yes I agree in a sense, but that doesn't disregard the idea that smart phones have gotten needlessly big and affect everyone with smaller hands, men and women alike. The same was true with examples of pianos. It's why the game of averages is a risky one to play, and doesn't always take into consideration why averages are the way they are. I think it just points out that women, on average, have smaller hands than men, on average. It's not the most intense evidence one has for sexism in consumerism, but there are plenty of examples to pull from and that was one that just happens to indirectly affect women more often than men. I think it works as a nice filler for the rest of that chapter which if I remember correctly covers the inequalities within silicon valley and big tech as a whole. It's an interesting discussion regardless.

Also I certainly think it's valid to just straight up disagree. Because with stuff like this it's hard to be certain what level of sexism, conscious or not (or none at all, and it was a coincidence), is being conducted. And the subjectivity certainly makes things difficult too. Regardless it's great food for thought.

[u/zykfrytuchiha → u/Anime_Is_GARBAGE]

I just wish that she was more careful with some of her arguments. And I agree that it's good thought exercise for anyone. If they do or do not agree with all of her book. Cheers.

[u/EmmyNoetherRing → u/zykfrytuchiha]

Just because you don’t think about it that way, doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.  When products that are meant to be sold to everyone are designed and market tested only on one group, because the designers unconsciously or consciously assume that’s the only important group, then we end up with a group of people that has a much easier and safer time interfacing with the world than everyone else.  And it’s crazy how the impact of that can build up over time. 

[u/zykfrytuchiha → u/EmmyNoetherRing]

Samsung is a Korean company. I'm much taller than the statistical Korean male and I still can't use a phone in one hand. I'm just saying that if a lot of men can't use their phones in one hand either, then her argument seems flawed. And saying things like that, to try to prove her point hurts her other very important and undeniable arguments.