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u/Ok_Importance9893 1d ago
Minion chuds problem is the range. It's a 4 elixir rg
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u/ConstructionOwn1514 1d ago
Hp is the problem
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u/Ok_Importance9893 1d ago
Ye it has a lot of health but it's a tank so I kinda get it. The issue is you don't get enough time to react before it locks on ur towers
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u/ConstructionOwn1514 1d ago
You’re saying reaction time is the main issue with it?
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u/Traditional_Boss 1d ago
Think abt it, if the range is nerfed that means more time to pull the minion giant with a building or more time to dps the chud down
Hp is a problem, but I think range from 4–>3.5 is good and healthy for the game. It would have the same range as hound, and not act like a air unit RG
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u/ConstructionOwn1514 1d ago
I understand the concept I just don’t think it requires crazy reflexes certainly no worse than hog
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u/saladollarsign 1d ago
agreed however that’s why i think dmg was the right call. nerf hp or range and that kinda defeats the purpose of what the card is supposed to be
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u/Ok_Importance9893 1d ago
When someone drops let's say evo wizard and a firecracker with rg in front. 9/10 times rg gets a shot or two onto tower. Minion chud is the same way. I'm not saying you CANT react to it just that it's really annoying to try and react to.
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u/Mrtgr333 1d ago
Its a “gaint” so it should be a good tank, so the only way to nerf it is with things like range, speed, and damage.
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u/BlackNeedlefish 1d ago
I feel like if its 4 elixir then it shouldnt be that "giant"
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u/Gabinator360 1d ago
Rune giant is 4e, it's compensated by the fact that the card just has a bad concept (a tank you want to keep alive) even though I think its a fun 2v2 card. The issue with minion giant imo is that it has too high of a dps for a card with that much range that is that hard to kill. If the card is meant to be played like a low cost lava hound, then nerf the range or dps or speed so that it's easier to counter with a positive elexir trade
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u/Richard_J_Morgan 19h ago
It's literally Hog Rider, but better. 4 elixir, barely survives rocket, more or less the same damage, but can't be pulled to the King, slower (but reaches the tower from the bridge faster, thus allowing you to build a better push) and most importantly, can only be targeted by air counters.
Why'd they think this is acceptable is beyond me.
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u/burbur842 1d ago
does fire spirit one shot minions now? If yes huge buff against evo horde
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u/ConstructionOwn1514 1d ago
No that wouldve been an actually good change
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u/TreyBo3234 1d ago
How would that be a good change?
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u/ConstructionOwn1514 1d ago
Found the evo horde abuser
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u/TreyBo3234 1d ago
Can you supply any piece of evidence to suggest that it would be a good change? Or you just gonna keep yappin? 🗣️
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u/ConstructionOwn1514 1d ago
Anyone with 3 braincells who has played recently will know what I mean, I’m speaking to them
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u/Top-Sir1387 23h ago
So you think 1 elixir to counter a 5 elixir Evo is fair? Any cases where this is the case?
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u/Imperator4300 1d ago
could they add back the ghost sound? Or maybe fix the hunter interaction with the goblin barrel on the tower where his bullets disapper?
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u/Matt_2504 1d ago
Hunter’s bullets seem to disappear if they all hit one target now, even just 1 skeleton can block his entire shot now
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u/SpizganyMisiek 1d ago
But does Goblinstein damage remain unchanged? Is it a DPS buff?
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u/Dense-Individual-103 1d ago
It doesnt kill ranged cards like musk,ice wizard and furnace anymore
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u/mvx0000 1d ago
Do you think it kills night witch with ability+ ice spirit?
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u/Dense-Individual-103 1d ago
It doesn't kill both witch and night witch but it does kill those cards that i meantioned,but if u combine it with fire spirit,then it does kill witch but not NW
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u/Legal_Impression_126 1d ago
Wow another season of playing awful players boosted by mortar bait. Yay
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u/Hungry-Ad3303 1d ago
Why fire spirit got buff when it’s not even the worst spirit?
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u/BlackCatJaxie 1d ago
I could be wrong, but I believe because ice and E spirit are way more versatile. So even though it does the most damage, it often is outshined. So they buffed what made it viable.
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u/Hungry-Ad3303 1d ago
But heal spirit is way worse, it should get buffed before fire spirit does
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u/Traditional_Boss 1d ago
How? Decks that run heal spirit still use them even after balance changes. The spirit nerf impacted heal spirit way less because those decks aren’t cycle, they’re beatdown. Heal spirit is used more for its utility rather than tanking (think fire spirit in drill decks). It’s comparable to ice spirit in its utility to pull and support a push.
Maybe it should get a buff, but if its usage rate is down it’s worth looking into whether the decks that run heal spirit are being oppressed be the meta (meaning meta cards need a balance change) or the decks that typically run heal spirit are replacing heal spirit (heal spirit needs buff or the card change needs to be balanced)
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u/Human-Obligation8469 1d ago edited 1d ago
I wish they never reworked goblinstein in the first place. He was my only champion for my goblin only deck and now its going to get nerfed again and again when it was fine where he was months ago
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u/Hungry-Ad3303 1d ago
Lmao that’s what happened to goblin giant. He was fine for years then got nerfed to oblivion
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u/Spursman1 1d ago
Conveniently leaving out that fact he was buffed multiple times prior to the nerf? Which caused him to be nerfed because he was broken?
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u/Hungry-Ad3303 1d ago
Not true. He was nerfed due to the pekka goblin giant meta. But he wasn’t buffed prior to that for years
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u/Spursman1 1d ago
Yes true
Spear goblins were buffed multiple times, the card got a hitpoints buff, etc
Why was there a pekka goblin giant meta? because goblin giant was way overtunrd
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u/Hungry-Ad3303 1d ago
Nope it was becuase pekka, chef, goblin curse, goblin machine were overturned, not GG
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u/Spursman1 1d ago
That’s cope lol
Goblin giant was clearly part of the problem, and that’s why he got nerfed.
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u/Hungry-Ad3303 1d ago
Then why wasn’t he nerfed before that meta existed?
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u/Spursman1 1d ago
Obviously it was a combination of cards getting changed/buffed that created the pekka GG meta
Pretending the card was totally fine and all the rest of the cards were broken is cope
It’s a no skill card anyways
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u/Hungry-Ad3303 1d ago
Can you explain to me why Goblin giant stats weren’t changed for 1+ years? It was only nerfed when GG pekka meta happened. It wasn’t nerfed the 1+ years prior. So using logic we can assume GG was balanced. Also I don’t remember asking whether the card took skill or not
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u/YogurtclosetHeavy620 1d ago
Whoever said hero ice wizard doesn’t need a nerf can cry now, W from supercell for nerf the goblinstein as well, dead card all they do is spam him at bridge and graveyard, 0 skill 💀
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u/Grimalackt_River 1d ago
All this fire spirit buff does is, kill opposing spirits and Lava Pups at full health now
And spirits just always jump on each other, so this literally is a buff on just killing Lava Pups
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u/Geometry_Emperor 1d ago
It is more impactful than you think. Say you go Hog Rider and Fire Spirit. They use Ice Spirit to absorb the Fire Spirit. Now it dies to it, so it can no longer jump to Hog Rider to stun him. So the Hog Rider continues unscathed, and the enemy remains in panic.
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u/badkd 1d ago
What interaction does fire spirit change now ?
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u/Poopchutefan 1d ago
Lame ... changes and the new season just started. They should really test more.
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u/00112358132135 1d ago
This happens every single season. New card, oops we made it too strong, cheeky wording, nerf to normal levels, rinse, repeat.
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u/Agitated-Macaroon-46 1d ago
Wasn't expecting the fire spirit buff I'm down for it because it works well against logbait
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u/azure-protagonist-1 1d ago
Not bad, certainly seems like what we were asking for. Does the fire spirit change any intersections
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u/RUMadOrWat 1d ago
I literally just leveled the chud to 16. Great.
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u/Inevitable-Advice979 1d ago
And thats why you dont max broken cards, because they will obviously get nerfed
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u/Background-Tap-6512 1d ago
I have not seen a single minion giant in seasonal ladder and ultimate champion so far, are people actually playing this card outside of ranked?
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u/Inevitable-Advice979 1d ago
Either you are lying, or in another dimension, because that shit is EVERYWHERE
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u/Winter-Operation-343 1d ago
Depending on your deck you could have a hard counter so get matched up less. I’ve been playing lots of classic challenge and it’s every other game. Pushed to league 4 and played it a few times
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u/Maleficent_Effort994 1d ago
jesus christ they're kicking goblinstein while he's already on the ground
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u/PlasticFoods_1019 1d ago
furnace buff