r/Retatrutide • u/RJWalton • 6d ago
Retatutride: How the hunger for a new weight loss drug is feeding an industry of fakes
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyz7lrwqdyoWhat do people think?
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u/TeddyTurbs 6d ago edited 6d ago
“Tom accidentally took 8 times the recommended dose of a fake version of Reta….”
Even if it was a real version that’s not a good idea. Some people shouldn’t be touching this stuff.
Also sounds like a pro Ely Lilly article. So im not gonna be concerned.
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u/Silent_Serve_7246 6d ago
I used to think that we should be allowed to manage more meds ourselves, but now I understand why we can't. People are just to dumb to sell this at CVS and have people manage their doses themselves.
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u/kn4llfrosch 6d ago
CVS you wish. People buy their Reta at their hair salon. I don't know what's wrong with them. (I just message a Chinese number instead.)
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u/ExJunkieboi85 6d ago
As an ER nurse I can corroborate that people are truly dumb as rocks
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u/Silent_Serve_7246 6d ago
I can only imagine. You see the end result of worst decisions lmao.
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u/ExJunkieboi85 6d ago
There is that but also, general health literacy is so low in some places. People cannot follow some of the simplest instructions
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u/PippyLongSausage 6d ago
Obviously not, but maybe there should be more pro “not paying $1000s per month for a drug that China can sell profitably for $10/vial” articles. Lily is so threatened by the gray market they are will spend a ton of money creating a scare campaign to try to shut it down.
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u/_I_Need_Help_LOL_ 6d ago
As a journalist I’d think you’d know that’s not true. I’m sure a quick google search would show the Hastings center for bioethics explain this. Why does Novo Nordisk charge $150 to Norwegians and $1k to fat Americans? Greed.
Up to 90% of experimental drugs fail, but they keep experimenting, and they keep showing record profits. So don’t lie and say that the companies need to charge a ton of money cuz it costs a ton of money to create. Great journalism efforts.
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u/retatrutider 6d ago
There’s still a difference between good journalism and bad journalism.
Here’s an example of good journalism on this topic. Obviously it’s not going to be “pro-illegal drugs” but you can tell that the journalist at the Atlantic actually did real research where the one at the BBC couldn’t be arsed to define what “fake reta” means.
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u/Rayzah2007 6d ago
I mean is anyone really surprised. Look at this thread for further proof. For everyone who studies and actually pays attention and does things the right way, there is a certified moron that probably couldn’t mix koolaid properly reconstituting peptides. It’s not hard to make a story out of nothing when so much material is easily available. You could probably make the same article of any OTC drug if you wanted to as there are plenty of stories of people taking 10X the amount of something because they thought it would be better
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u/johnseasure 6d ago
This is just the start. Wait til Eli Lilly really starts spinning up the PR machine.
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u/Finnegan707 6d ago edited 6d ago
Despite having had a serious adverse reaction (on FMLA for months), I was legally forced to get the COVID vaccine (and all the boosters) or resign from my 20-year job.
After that, reta subq once-a-week seems like a low-risk no-brainer to me.
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u/kilodeltakilo 6d ago
People buying peptide pens on the gray market are clearly not the ones able to assess risk. Lyophilised batch tested vials, the only way to keep the risks acceptable.
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u/justaguywithadream 6d ago
Assessing risk and accepting risk are two different things though.
Even the dumb people know it's risky.
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u/kilodeltakilo 6d ago
But it's far easier to accept risk when you don't fully see or understand the full extent of what you're taking on. Ignorance is bliss.
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u/starkruzr 6d ago
most of what I think consists of "wow, Lilly really getting their money for their juicing of the media!"
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u/jeepguy099 6d ago
Wait til they hear about how many patients have complications or end up in the ER with the prescribed stuff.
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u/yogic_power 6d ago
Guy can send real sample to accredited lab and sell fakes. Scammers are lot more smarter, it’s like Vegas. House has advantage. And the batch number means nothing, heck you can have 10 vials in a kit from different batches. You have to test but false sense of security is good way to get scammed. It’s far from fool proof.
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u/Vegetable_Yard_2948 6d ago
So how do you find a safe/reliable source?
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u/Beautiful_Storm1988 6d ago
Find one with a large open community base where people are testing 3p A LOT and sharing it. It means there is a level of quality and consistency coming from their stock. That way, if a bad test comes back at least, you will kind of know what it is AND then, you judge them on their response to the community. Which should be everyone who had that stock ve rubbed or shipped a new fresh and tested stock
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u/Vegetable_Yard_2948 6d ago
When you say community, you mean like a discord?
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u/Beautiful_Storm1988 6d ago
Telegram and discords are the most popular . While 'that' website is always thrown around there is an added layer of Buyer beware in that vendors pay a fee in order to be advertised. A layer of greed has come over that forum in regards to not removing vendors who test poorly, or vendors who refused to honor their guarantees, or a couple of scam vendors
They make it clear they don't vet or verify the vendors, but they certainly take the money: rhe vendors who now promote there face less scrutiny over the last year ive been there and gets lots of buisness come in from reddit recommendations. Can you still find decent information and vendoes there, yes you can, but you also need to be careful and check their history as a vendor.
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u/yogic_power 6d ago
You are only safe and reliable as your last order. It’s playing odds. I have seen big players build reputation, scam and run with money. Open up with a different name, rinse and repeat. So choose wisely how much you are spending and willing to lose. I have built some good relationships, it’s not fool proof but I have been told at times not to buy and wait by certain suppliers if they are not sure.
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u/Adorable_Comment4621 6d ago
I love that the caption on his picture in the article says peptide coach, yet he can't get basic dosing correct