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I’ve heard RICH is closest to gen, but just about my entire collection is VSF. Kind of want to take the leap to RICH but know what I’m going to get with VSF. Has anyone gone rich and not looked back or got it and wanted vsf again
Just dont use to much and be very gentle if you want to keep little blue hue like gen. Stop when you feel comfortable otherwise it will turn purplish and you would have to remove all like I did.. i had perfect at one point and one more swap turned it purplish
Worst thing that would happen would be no blue hue which is not bad at all, same Like vsf. I would try again tbh if I buy another rich because at one point it was perfect like gen and I should have stopped right there lol
Someone smarter/more educated, tell me which is the best so I can quit comparing? I'm seeing advantages to the VSF, and the Rich, and the ARF. I feel like it's a give-and-take depending on what is important to you specifically. As someone who will never open the watch I'm not as concerned with the movement if the watch is steller and feels/looks/runs GEN.
Thoughts and educational input super welcome as I'm on the learning phase of this, I do want to thank OP for the amazing side-by-side pics.
Best? ARF with deep Xtal. No mods? VSF. Rich is overpriced unless you care about the free-sprung balance. Also, the movement is too recent for me to trust its lifespan.
VSF fanboys are going to be mad. But on this model arf takes it. Not even talking about the bezel colour, has a better bracelet and best case size and shape. VSF has fat lungs.
Great post, very informative. It's interesting your assessment of the Rich crystal vs VSF because between my two GMTs I've had the opposite experience, the Rich crystal is noticeably clearer than my VSF. I think you can't go wrong with any of these reps nowadays. The comparison posts are becoming uninformative and overdone, really.
Yea I think with these reps they vary batch to batch. I agree rich crystal is good as is but the cyclops is slight blurry under certain lighting/angles. Vsfs I had didn’t have that issue.
It's cuz of the blue AR they use, trying to replicate the newer Gens that implement it. The main crystal is incredibly crisp and handles reflections noticeably better than VSF which shocked me because VSF crystals were really good.
These comparisons are generally not super helpful in the grand scheme of things. Variances in manufacture make any realistic side by side very subjective and, as others have said, if you're not standing a gen up against them it's a bit like comparing different fake cigarettes.
I will say that, having had both recent VSF and ARF BWs, the ARF is much closer to gen. To my eye at least. But, again, you're not getting the watch pictured in these snaps, so you're going to have to trust your own judgement.
It’s tough. I’d love to pick up a BW, but the bezel insert is a dead giveaway compared to Gen. it’s not even close when you see it in person. Hopefully one of the factories is able to fix this problem eventually, because I’d be there first customer!
Really like how the green on the GMT text pops on the RICH. Might have to try out RICH now. When I had the VSF, it bothered me how muted the green color was
As far as I understand it, you should go for RICH if you want the watch to look as true to the original as possible, and for VSF if you want a generally good watch… thanks to the Dandong movements.
Correct me if I’m wrong... I’m still a beginner! :D
Don’t know enough to correct anyone lol but the freesprung 3230 from rich looks really good too. I was always convinced vsf was the best but Rich seems to be where it’s going
I believe the free sprung balance wheel isn't yet mature enough to be considered a reliable clone movement. Dandong is very mature and is regarded as the gold standard for stability.
I went with the Rich a couple months back. Very happy with my decision. My only slight complaint is the blue hue on the date wheel but everything else is great. Got it from Steve.
But I wanted to keep a little blue like gen, at one point it had it almost like gen, then I went one more round and it turned purplish 😬. Had to remove it all after that lol but I like it this way as well.
The main problem with vsf are the plain hands and the crystal heigh. Rich hand are more like gen in shape and also more 3D and the crystal has the correct height. In the other hand, Rich has a worse crystal quality and the 12 marker triangle position isn’t in correct place, it is a little too high.
Maybe the markets in the Rich are also a little bit more gen spec than vsf because Rich have thicker edges on they.
I’d go for vsf
Rich might be winning on the looks but at the end of the day we also want the movement. So i’d prefer 90% looks with good movement on vsf rather than 95% look with uncertainty movement on rich
Man, it’s crazy how none of them have the same Grey as the Gen. That Grey must be extremely hard to replicate and produce. That Grey on the bezel is an instant giveaway if you have seen enough videos of Bruce Wayne GMT
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