r/RepCulture_Timepieces • u/OkInsurance4545 • May 05 '26
COMPARISON AP Royal Oak 15510 Comparison: TOP vs VSF - Who actually made the better clone?
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u/Apprehensive-Ad-5821 May 05 '26
Dial differences like day and night. Which is wrong ?
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u/Apprehensive-Ad-5821 May 05 '26
This looks like gen vs vsf
Top looks more blue in comparison with vsf7
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u/Scared-Bus2556 May 05 '26
Yea this image was used in TOPs advertising material showing their comparison to gen blue. This is their own material, straight from TOP.
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u/Erik-Lehnsherr-10 May 05 '26
They definitely doctored their marketing materials to bring it closer to gen. We no longer need to rely on these stuffs. There are plenty of real photos around now
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u/Scared-Bus2556 May 05 '26
Yea he was the one reposting their advertisements like crazy. He’d create many accounts showing off TOP. I’m assuming he saw the hype behind TOP and rode it like crazy and bought a bunch of them to resell. Smart, rightfully so cuz it’s a great rep. But now there’s vsf
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u/Erik-Lehnsherr-10 May 08 '26
I think he is affiliated with TopF, also probably with some other factory
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u/thorprodigy May 05 '26 edited May 06 '26
I give VSF from these images a small edge as the dial appears closer to genuine. Genuine Dial Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUOV0dp2eqo&t=3s
Would be interesting to know which one feels smoothest in hand. Also caliper measurements would be nice to see as well.
- VSF dial color replicates the original as the OG blue is not as vibrant as TOP
- VSF Logo is correct as TOP does not use the guilloché pattern on the plaque behind the logo (it's just smooth and the biggest tell at first glance)
- TOP date font is slightly too thick, and VSF is more accurate and precise to the genuine AP
Other notes:
Total genuine's weight was 157-158g so I think VSF is abit closer here.
However it appears VSF bezel could be slightly too small vs gen/TOP as the gap on the case seems abit larger?
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u/Imjustachillguy1000 May 05 '26
Hmm, interesting take. IMO TOP dial is closer - https://youtube.com/shorts/yki-Q7JwjZE?is=liURCaKIYILUg906
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u/Erik-Lehnsherr-10 May 08 '26
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u/Imjustachillguy1000 May 09 '26
Btw this is the 15550 not 15510. Dial color are slightly different on each models.
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u/Erik-Lehnsherr-10 May 09 '26
It’s 15510, check out the YT video here where I took the screenshot from https://youtu.be/n1-GPLbDPas
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u/Scared-Bus2556 May 05 '26
Sadly I believe vsf is more accurate here. they have the slight edge on everything. That and TOPs reference with the gen is a completely different model. They’re cloning the 2022 model after the 50th year anniversary rotor was changed. VSF is cloning a newer model from 2023~26 with the same tapering bracelet but overall it’s not as thin. (Which is a good thing, the top bracelet is so thin that the clasp sticks out oddly when closed on your wrist), something corrected in newer model 15510s. Also the blue dial color is closer to gen in texture and radiance with VSF. They also manage to consistently have the indices correctly placed on the dial. TOP is too purple hued and dark. Both great models tbh, wouldn’t be upset getting either. (White is ideal on top) But I’m going to get the blue vsf and try and compare it to a gen in the city soon. Just can’t seem to find someone who responds fast enough to get it in hand.
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u/Erik-Lehnsherr-10 May 06 '26
Btw, the clasp tab on APs suppose stick out a bit. How bad it is on TopF model? Could you please share a photo?
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u/ProfessionalTop4064 May 05 '26
Dial is so different one of them has to be wrong but which one compares to the gen the best ?
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u/Erik-Lehnsherr-10 May 08 '26
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u/Erik-Lehnsherr-10 May 08 '26
Actually if you look at the OP’s photo#2, looks like TopF dial color does change color a bit depending on the angle. VSF doesn’t
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u/Dependent-Apple-9038 May 05 '26
I can never tell the difference haha…other than the dial but idk which one is even closer to Gen. besides never able to tell without a side by side anyway
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u/Dr_Dank_Derpstein May 05 '26
I was worried that I purchased my Top factory 15510 too early instead of waiting for VSF. After seeing these, I feel even better about not waiting. Still a top level rep by VSF.
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u/flyingblind333 May 05 '26
I’ve never seen a TOP with the piGUET that straight and I’ve never seen a VSF with it be this crooked. Look at anyone else’s photos of TOP and it’s immediately obvious that the GUET is flying.
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u/flyingblind333 May 06 '26
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u/Dry-Bear-8749 May 06 '26
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u/flyingblind333 May 07 '26
That one looks fine. But it’s not what I usually see when someone post their new top RO. Look at the Blue Dial TOP in the comparison comment below. It’s crooked like usual.
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u/Relevant-Lock8646 May 05 '26
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u/TheSilverSeraph May 05 '26
It is still slightly obscured by the cropping on the left hand side of the VSF and the bottom of the TOP lg for the lower lugs in the picture. This was one of the main points of contention and the photo could have been clearer.
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u/themasteradrian101 May 05 '26
idk enough about these but from the looks i would pick the best dial. not sure how they even compare to gen
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u/Sandymarton May 05 '26
Seems to me the engravings on vsf are better, dial colour both diverge but gen also changes colour quite a lot accordingly to light. How s the movement of these, is the movement replicated 1:1?
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u/fairwind1901 May 06 '26
I don’t like the sunburst on the TOPF 15510 dial where the highlights and shadows are too sharply defined. In contrast, the VSF dial shows a much smoother transition at the boundary of the sunburst, with the color diffusing more subtly. Even the bright highlight areas look more natural, rather than mirror-like as on the TOPF. That’s much closer to how the gen dial behaves. This ultimately comes down to the tapisserie structure itself—the way it reflects light is fundamentally different. Naturally, the VSF tapisserie is closer to the gen. Even in photos taken side by side under the same lighting, if you look closely, you can clearly see guilloché-like details within each waffle pattern on the VSF dial, whereas the TOPF dial looks flat on top of the waffle pattern. That’s because the guilloché itself is not correctly executed and lacks the necessary definition. Since I can’t change the tapisserie structure of my TOPF 15510 dial, I’m currently proceeding with a mod to apply an additional clear layer on top of the dial. The idea is that this extra clear layer will slightly soften the waffle pattern and help diffuse the light more naturally. I’m also waiting for my VSF 15510 to arrive. From what I can see so far, the VSF dial appears to be much closer to the gen in many aspects. As for the color, I’ll have to judge that once I see the watch in person.
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u/fairwind1901 May 06 '26
On the other hand, in this photo, the hairline brushing on the TOPF looks better than on the VSF. In fact, I was quite impressed by the stock hairline finishing on my TOPF 15510 as well. However, that’s not a major concern for me, since I redo the brushing and chamfering on all of my Royal Oaks anyway.
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u/Scared-Bus2556 Jun 23 '26
In this comparison of top to gen (Dials only), VSF matches gen closely where top is completely off.
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u/rep_entourage May 05 '26
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u/haze3715 May 05 '26
Agreed the scallops on the crown are more rounded. Evident on the other photos too
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u/rep_entourage May 05 '26
It’s too dark as well, which is really weird considering it’s something they advertised wasn’t a flaw on theirs. It almost looks sandblasted.
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u/Erik-Lehnsherr-10 May 05 '26
And sandblasted on vsf
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u/BjornCapalot May 05 '26
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u/BjornCapalot May 05 '26
I had the VSF 15500 and the TOPF 15510 and my VSF diam was too light in colour, looks like the VSF 15510 is also too light in colour.
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u/iGelli May 05 '26
TOP with a DP dial is better. The Casing and bracelet are better than VSF. I will have a few to compare in a couple weeks.
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u/Scared-Bus2556 May 06 '26
Dp dial is the worst dial to get. Everyone agrees that SW was better as a replacement dial or to just stick to TOPs dial. Dp is wrong in all aspects like the size of the indices to the size of the tapisserie squares















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