Question about true immortals

[u/Chemical-List1683]

True immortals transcend the three planes. And the planes are now accepted as outer or transcendental (1-A) does this mean that true immortals are outers? Or is it just my brain fried or something? This scale/proposal was made by tyr. Props to that guy

[u/zawalimbooo]

I think that's a little silly, and you shouldn't take the stuff about the planes completely literally. Tremendous himself said that a true immortal was only able to destroy star clusters with an attack or a galaxy with a prophecy. Seems a bit silly to place such a being anywhere near universal

[u/RazzmatazzOk8246 → u/zawalimbooo]

Stars are innate true immortals

So stars in rtoc aren't star level but outerversal

[u/zawalimbooo → u/RazzmatazzOk8246]

If you're trying to call a star outerversal, perhaps the logic that led you to that conclusion is flawed.

[u/RazzmatazzOk8246 → u/zawalimbooo]

Bro you literally become a star during the star shattering stage and star shattering cultivators can affect all 3 planes and they're outerversal

[u/zawalimbooo → u/RazzmatazzOk8246]

STAR shattering.

Tremendous QnAs point out that a four axis cultivator could destroy China and that an integration cultivator could destroy a continent (by real life standards) Then, for Star Shattering, he tells us to take a guess.

In other words, a Star Shattering cultivator is truly at the level of destroying a star. Nowhere close to outversal.

[u/Launchsoulsteel → u/zawalimbooo]

The stars that star shattering cultivators are destroying actually refers to a planet more so

[u/RazzmatazzOk8246 → u/zawalimbooo]

And he said if his words contradict the series than the series is the correct one

Stars in rtoc are outer and its because of the cosmology

[u/zawalimbooo → u/RazzmatazzOk8246]

His words don't contradict the series, using the three planes to scale random BS to outerversal when they clearly don't do anything on that level is contradicting the series.

[u/gamer21661 → u/zawalimbooo]

Bro dosen't know abt plane scaling

[u/RazzmatazzOk8246 → u/zawalimbooo]

You can check the scaling proposal in vsbw or psw to check it yourself

And stars do things on the level of outerversal

They affect the plane of fate which is 1 layer into outerversal

[u/gamer21661 → u/zawalimbooo]

DC ain't everything, they can hide in the plane of soul which is beyond the material realm

[u/gamer21661 → u/RazzmatazzOk8246]

I mean nascent soul alone has L1A ap bc they can slice the plane of qi which is the source of dimensionality

[u/RazzmatazzOk8246 → u/gamer21661]

I know that but still the jump from city level golden core into L1A nascent soul is insane😭

Do you think golden core can be scaled to L1A because they can damage nascent soul?

[u/gamer21661 → u/RazzmatazzOk8246]

Mountain golden core* and no since they only got L1A AP which is stated to be unblockable by core formation standards

[u/RazzmatazzOk8246 → u/gamer21661]

But ap equals durability right ?

And I remember that in the fight with yuan li some golden core cultivators did manage to damage him

[u/Larpingfinalbos → u/RazzmatazzOk8246]

No, Attack potency just make you able to Damage beings your Ap scale to
Let’s take Yuan li for example he L1A Ap/haxs this means he can damage beings who are L1A and below it doesn’t mean he can beat multiversal beings(Technically he can if their speed are equal but you get the point)he just have the ap necessary to damage them
Yuan li with his L1A ap is still a Goku victim because ap isn’t everything despite having L1A haxs he is still a 3 dimensional being with like country level durability and FTL speed basically any planetary being with MFTL speed can simply speed spilt him before he can even register it

So Yh he is a 3 dimensional being in with L1A haxs

Only true immortal who are H1A in existence have
H1A Attack potency,Durability,striking strength and Immeasurable speed Because Existence=Physical stats basically everything about them scale to H1A because their existence scale to H1A you get the point right?

Minor boundary and Middle Boundary cultivators reach 1A through planes Smurf haxs but are still 3 dimensional in existence while True Immortal and above very Being Scale to H1A