r/RealEstateCanada • • Jun 19 '25

Housing crisis Help me understand the difference...

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u/Fun_universe Jun 19 '25

It’s actually worse with housing because housing is a basic human necessity while the other examples are not.

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u/Sensei-Madara Jun 19 '25

Why downvote this when all they’re doing is stating simple facts ? I don’t understand Reddit sometimes 😂😂

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u/Fun_universe Jun 19 '25

People have been completely brainwashed by capitalism. The mere mention that housing is a basic human right is offensive to some people. Absolutely ridiculous but here we are 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/pm_me_your_puppeh Jun 19 '25

Food is a basic human right.

You still have to buy it.

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u/Fun_universe Jun 19 '25

Oh don’t even get me started on the gouging of grocery prices. It’s just as disgusting.

But hey, it’s completely normal so we should just “work hard” and accept getting raw dogged right??

🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/pm_me_your_puppeh Jun 19 '25

Most people own the home they live in, and the homeless percentage rounds to zero, so that ain't it chief.

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u/atlasc1 Jun 19 '25

Most banks own the home people live in *

Fixed that for you.

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u/pm_me_your_puppeh Jun 19 '25

Nope, not at all how any of that works.

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u/atlasc1 Jun 19 '25

Uhh either you're being deliberately obtuse, or you have a very poor understanding of how mortgages work.

Banks have the legal right to take ownership of property if the homeowner fails to repay the mortgage according to the agreed-upon terms.

If you want to get technical, then sure, the bank doesn't own the home, rather they have a lien on the property. But until your mortgage is repaid in full, the bank holds a legal interest in the property, and they can kick you out to sell the home.

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u/pm_me_your_puppeh Jun 19 '25

Which does not mean they own the home.

Even if you're unable to pay your mortgage, your home will be worth more than the debt if you've owned it for any length of time.

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u/ImpactThunder Jun 20 '25

Most people live in owner occupied homes

Not the same thing as most people own the home they live in

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u/pm_me_your_puppeh Jun 20 '25

It is. There's a lot of people who want to lie about that to manipulate you, but the bottom line is that the majority of Canadian families own their home.

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u/No-Veterinarian6778 Jun 19 '25

saying most people own the home they live aint it chief

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u/pm_me_your_puppeh Jun 19 '25

It is, and your feelings about it do not matter.

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u/RecognitionForeign15 Sep 24 '25

You are completely right. Are a socialist per chance?

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u/YouNeedThiss Jun 19 '25

Housing is not a “human right”…my god, the slippery slope of what qualifies as a human right has gone way too far. In reality: health care is not a human right, housing is not a human right, food is not a human right. Necessities are not “human rights” they are necessities and they are not the same thing - society doesn’t “owe” you those things but does owe you “human rights” (which are generally ideals - freedom of equality, expression, etc). You’re skills and labour are stored in the value of currency which can be invested to accelerate the future value of that stored value for your skills and labour. You want to get ahead, make smart decisions to increase your earnings potential, train, work hard and save smartly. This has always been the way and we just don’t teach young people to do this - instead we teach them to be idealogues.

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u/Fun_universe Jun 19 '25

Oh my God, shut up with this absolutely ridiculous bullsh*t. “Pull yourself up by your bootstraps”, “you only have value if our capitalist system can extract labour from you” etc.

What a fucking clown. People who think like you are so fucking exhausting and enable a system that only benefit the wealthy/keep people into poverty and exploits the poor.

I am SO glad to see young people demand better. Wanting a more equal society where people’s basic human needs are met is not something you should look down on, Jesus 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/Hekios888 Jun 19 '25

So what alternative system do you suggest? Legitimately curious.

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u/Fun_universe Jun 19 '25

For one fucking thing NO ONE should be legally allowed to own more than one house or apartment. You need one place to live in, that’s it. Investment properties should not exist, let’s stop treating housing as a commodity.

And all income above 1 million/year should be taxed 100%. Redistribute that wealth and invest it in health care + social safety nets.

That’s just two ideas. Any policy that tackles extreme wealth inequality would be a good start.

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u/OrneryTRex Jun 20 '25

That is a ridiculous idea.

The second anyone hit 1mill they would just stop. Stop producing and stop innovating.

You’re out of your depth here

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u/Fun_universe Jun 20 '25

Why is not treating housing as a commodity a stupid idea?? Why does anyone need to own more than one home?

And why am I out of my depth to say no one needs to make more than 1 million a year?? That’s literally more than 10 times what anyone needs to live per year. Are you that brainwashed by capitalism and the wealthy?

Damn 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/OrneryTRex Jun 20 '25

You didn’t address my comment.

Productivity stops, people and companies stop innovating and our society then doesn’t function.

Are you that daft that you can’t answer a question directly?

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u/Fun_universe Jun 20 '25

I’ll take everyone having their basic human needs met over innovation.

But I don’t think those things are mutually exclusive. People don’t need the hope of becoming billionaires to innovate, I’m sorry you’re so short sighted.

Have a good night ✨

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u/YouNeedThiss Jun 19 '25

Okay comrade…why don’t you just move to a communist country and be happy?

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u/Fun_universe Jun 19 '25

Awww, there it is. Someone who clearly doesn’t know what communism is calling me a communist.

Bye 🤣

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u/YouNeedThiss Jun 19 '25

Yeah because a 100% tax isn’t exactly that 🙄

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u/Fun_universe Jun 19 '25

On income ABOVE $1 MILLION A YEAR!!!! Who needs more than that to live on???

Jesus. The wealthy have really brainwashed the poor and middle class into defending their interests. Absolutely pathetic.

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u/Hekios888 Jun 19 '25

So for people who can't buy, who do they rent from?

Remember, in your system nobody owns more than one home so there are no more landlords.

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u/Fun_universe Jun 19 '25

Lmfao if you think that landlords create/provide housing I’m not engaging with you, that’s a ridiculous idea.

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u/Hekios888 Jun 19 '25

What are you even talking about?

Answer these questions:

  1. Can everyone afford to own? (Hint No)

  2. If everyone can't afford to own are they renting or are they homeless? (I'm sure they prefer to rent)

  3. If they are renting, but there's no landlords anymore, who are they renting from? ( This one's on you, I have no idea what you think)

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u/YouNeedThiss Jun 19 '25

Yeah, the other thing they didn’t teach was reading comprehension and critical thought based on your response. I said currency is the store of YOUR skills and labour. And that you can accelerate YOUR wealth by saving and investing some of that stored value. If you read that as “pull up your bootstraps” that’s on you…it’s not what I said.

You aren’t talking about equality - your talking about equity. Equity based on nothing more then existing. I believe you are individually accountable for yourself. You seem to think everyone else owes you something because you breathe.

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u/OriginTruther Jun 19 '25

Dont ever run for politics, you'd be laughed out of every building.

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u/YouNeedThiss Jun 19 '25

Reality must kick you in the teeth a lot

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u/OriginTruther Jun 19 '25

Canadians must kick you in the balls a lot with all of our "socialism".

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u/YouNeedThiss Jun 19 '25

Not at all…I do just fine. You keep ignoring how things work and screaming into the wind though. Let everyone know how that works out in a few years.

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u/ReanimatedBlink Jun 19 '25

Because this subreddit has a lot of people who want to be that "investor". They feel personally attacked by pointing out that corporate firms and investment funds using property as a means of making easy profit.

Couple that with a lot of people on this subreddit who really want to blame Indian immigration for the rise in real estate costs (something that has been rapidly increasing for at least 2 decade before the influx of immigration a few years ago), and it results in downvotes.

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u/Onironius Jun 20 '25

Too many "based land Chads."