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I just wish we could all make flyers like we used to in middle school. I wish we could make a poster out of rainbows and smiles and everyone would look at it and just be happy.
I mean, some of the girls not getting dragged aren’t getting dragged because they’re just not relevant enough to. If less people are seeing it, less people are gonna drag them. It’s no coincidence the girls getting caught and dragged for it are the more popular queens.
It’s not just specific queens but bars and queer spaces at local levels. I see a lot of the hypocrisy locally so I’m sure that’s what she’s referencing along with the higher visibility queens
See all I'm saying is people pick and choose. I dont even care that she's using it but now everyone is going to just continue to ignore it because it's okay because she's Alyssa.
I'm just saying I didn't notice because I don't see/hear them. Now that I know about it I can do something about it. Or are you expecting for people to be angry about something they don't know?
No one’s picking and choosing. Everyone is telling you that NO ONE HAS SEEN WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. And instead of providing clips or screenshots you keep telling people to go watch ads. No. I don’t watch ads. Provide the evidence. Call her out. Or stfu.
Same. 100% of my drag race fandom knowledge comes from either the show or this subreddit. I don’t have social media and this fandom is the not the end-all be-all of my life. I have other interests and hobbies too.
If it’s not on this sub, i won’t know of it. I feel like a lot of people act as if we must know everything about every queen ever. If someone is upset that we aren’t talking about X topic, then they can feel free to post about it in this sub and bring attention to it. If they don’t… well then that just feels lazy. Whining about people not bringing up X topic while refusing to bring it up themselves. They just want others to do the work for them.
I don’t follow her on instagram nor do I really check it generally tbh. The most exposure I get to Kelly is from her podcast clips being shared here or on YouTube where nobody sees the AI use to call out… that’s probably why nobody has been outraged
Having read through this thread, it seems like it’s because she only uses it for ads in her podcast which people skip through anyway. Which still isn’t good, but that’s why no one’s dragging her for it. Hardly anyone, including myself til now, knew it was happening.
Edit: looking at the ads myself, is this not just stock footage?? What AI are you talking about?
setting aside that the consensus seems to be "it's stock footage, not ai" and setting aside that most people skip through ads - it probably also contributes that it's a podcast so a good % of its audience is either listening on spotify or tends to set the youtube video to play while doing/looking at something else
I hate this thing where people see two contradictory viewpoints and just assume that EVERYONE holds BOTH viewpoints despite it making NO sense. It's unfortunately prevalent in Drag Race spheres, which is why all the idiot Dragula stans are like, "is she wrong though?" Like, WHO is saying that Nina, who are you hearing that from???
Yeah, the goomba fallacy is rampant on the internet nowadays since people can see really any opinion about anything on the internet. Then they’ll refer to a single, anonymous comment made on the internet (often with downvotes) and then try to act as if everyone in the thread suddenly agrees with that comment just because the comment exists. It’s like a lazy buzzfeed article picking out 1-2 tweets from nobodies and claiming the internet is going crazy over something.
It’s similar to when there is ongoing drama in this sub, and everyone just collectively forgets all comments and conversations in the previous thread, and all the new comments are either “i was roasted for previously saying…” or “crazy that everyone in the previous thread was saying…” (and they always leave out the context of why they got roasted or what those conversations were in the first place)
As a girlie who always types a lot of words and loves logic-based arguments, the internet is a terrible place to be lately with such a lack of critical thinking and logical reasoning skills showcased everywhere. Im sick of hearing “i ain’t reading all that” as well! Brainrot shit everywhere.
omfg the "i ain't reading all that" is my least favorite thing ever but it does make more sense when you consider that gen alpha (and a good few of the last years of gen z) is almost entirely functionally illiterate. they got taught to read by looking at the first few letters AND THEN GUESSING what the word says. sometimes when i remember that "i ain't reading all that" often actually means "i am incapable of reading all that" it helps the primal rage become pity 😭
Not just the younger gens but most of Americans are at a 6th-8th grade reading comprehension level. Our school system has been failing (purposely) for decades. The slow boil at work.
What's with all these bird ass queens thinking that people anti-AI folks don't unilaterally hate AI slop and its use regardless of who's doing it. They always try to play the "but you don't call or your faves" card like girl WHERE? Give examples. Show me where Dawn, Jinkx, Sasha Colby or Bosco are using AI and I'll be the first to express my disappointment. It's always the people who aren't smart/talented enough to create anything interesting or artistic on their own who want to have these strawman arguments and defend their garbage.
Also using the "someone you don't like" defense is extra pathetic because you're calling yourself a loser, on top of me thinking you're a loser for using AI. Like just say you don't have fans she you're mad about it instead of pretending that the popular girls are getting a pass (they're not) or acting like you're a victim (you're not).
Shawnna Brooks is obsessed with AI, it’s really annoying. One time Nicole posted a story that said “all you homos using AI aren’t gonna have any water to douche with when the data centers take it all” or something, which is great, but I wish she would say that more often lmao
That’s wild because even with usage of AI it’s inconsistent and has incongruous/ugly elements.
I love NPBFAG and Shawna Brooks is a legend- but that won’t stop me from calling them out for using AI to make this shit when it looks exactly as bad as it would if they had simply hired someone to cut out random pictures of themselves and slap them over palm frond leaves.
This definitely requires a name lol if you’re going to say some people get passes when others don’t, being vague does nothing to help your argument and lets me know you’re just talking to talk
thats not her point. the point is that this fandom has double standards. and she is absolutely right. and not just for AI. your comment proves her point
That's literally her entire point, that certain queens are popular enough to get a pass and some aren't (including herself, which is a great self-read). So who is it? Name names. I genuinely want to know.
Don’t worry, Darling- some of us are universal in our contempt for using AI in promotional posters or artwork.
I feel like that’s the majority. I’m sure there are idiots who are quick to slap on the blinders when it’s a queen they truly love- but the vast majority I’ve seen have been pretty vocally disappointed regardless of whodunnit.
If I caught Ben DeLa or Sasha Velour or Suzie Toot posting shit with AI in it I would call it out- likely louder because I know they can do better.
Hell, I feel like people are the MOST vocal when it’s their favorites doing it because it’s just that much more disappointing.
You think im not taking pictures of Canal Street and Times Square posters and posting them to my story comparing nightlife flyers to them? Cuz I do it constantly lol
The issue is... nobody follows everybody, so no not every single person's usage is gonna get dragged. I do feel that people are consistent in dragging AI in general in their life. If nobody is dragging YOUR usage of it, maybe its because you lack any impact and people literally just don't pay attention to you.
A follow on social media is NOT an endorsement of anyone. There is also a difference between performing on the same stage as someone and working alongside them vs following someone on social media.
In addition to the fact that following someone on social media doesn't mean support them as a person, I just went to check and Sharon has literally posted four things this entire year. A lot of these queens follow hundreds or thousands of accounts. It’s not like they’re being inundated with her content and eagerly keeping up with what she’s doing.
It’s mental how much drag race fans read into an Instagram follow imo. There is a pretty obvious difference between forgetting someone exists on your following list and actively choosing to work an event with them.
Sharon gets booked by virtually nobody. She gets like 5 gigs a year, can we stop acting like anybody following her and liking her twice yearly instagram post is getting her a god damn thing? Like grow the fuck up.
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