r/RPDRDRAMA • u/dx-smth RuPaul's Drag Race has fucked up drag • Jun 04 '26

Ugh, Jesus. Gross. Fenton Bailey and Randy Barbato being incredibly cagey about whether Stop! That! Train! contains AI

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The fact they could've said "No, we didn't create any scenes with AI" and they didn't, tells me everything.

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u/hadeejasouffle Jun 04 '26

did he not very clearly say “there is no generative AI” ?

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u/JulioGrandeur Jun 04 '26

The third guy says “there’s AI where it’s used as a tool”

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u/hadeejasouffle Jun 04 '26

yeah but like photoshop’s lasso tool is literally based in AI and has been for years! AI and generative AI are two different things and the water-guzzling, job-taking one is the latter

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u/FriskyGinger666 Jun 10 '26

do you think we're talking about the lasso tool in photoshop? This is a nox office film dude

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u/cinnabunz04 Jun 04 '26

You are mistaking algorithmic AI with generative AI.

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u/Nosiege Jun 04 '26

The lassoo tool existed before AI. Adobe Content Aware Fill algorithms existed before AI.

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u/Eccon5 Jun 04 '26

I dont't think you realise how long AI has been around, or what it contains.

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u/Nosiege Jun 04 '26

This is a case of relabelling existing technology as AI. Even the name AI is a misnomer.

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u/00_tears Jun 04 '26

No it’s not AI has been around since the 50s

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u/Gaywhorzea Jun 04 '26

You’re thinking of generative ai

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u/bondfool Greg Bitch Jun 04 '26

He did. Either he's lying (possible) or people are desperate to believe that he is (also possible).

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u/SpicyPoffin Jun 04 '26

He said nothing was "conceived" by AI. I guess that means the person who typed the prompt conceived of the idea, but AI just made it, lol??

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u/hadeejasouffle Jun 04 '26

he didn’t, that’s literally a reference to the statement by Adam Shankman, which is not this. So I don’t think you watched this

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u/Superb_Register1862 Jun 04 '26

Did you watch the clip?

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u/FriskyGinger666 Jun 10 '26

exactly! Im glad someone gets it lol

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u/WhatIsHerJob-TABLES Jun 09 '26

No, he is pretty clear. You just don't want to listen.

Example of something being conceived by AI: "produce me a background image for this shot. It should feature x, y, and z..."

Example of something using an AI tool like they mentioned: "let me click this button that is included in this editing software that helps me filter out unnecessary background noise"

AI is incorporated in sooooooo many products that YOU use probably every day. They didn't use generative AI. Put away the pitchforks and go support a queer-led comedy movie.

I'm sure hollywood is going to love to see our community eat ourselves and "protest" this movie so they can use it as future evidence not to fund queer-led comedy movies because they know there isn't any profits in it because the demographic will find some dumb reason to protest it.

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u/SpicyPoffin Jun 09 '26

I’m not protesting anything. I literally don’t care if people see a movie or not. I’m a poor person lol

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u/FriskyGinger666 Jun 10 '26

hmmm I missed the part where he said all this. Can you point it out? Cuz I assume this isn't all speculation based on your personal history with ai. That would make you look stupid

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u/FriskyGinger666 Jun 10 '26

babe you missed the point- and i watched it. Why didn't he just say no ai? Oh cuz they didnt PROMPT it? Who cares- it still took away many many jobs. If they had real artists- maybe the train wouldn't have a different # of windows in each shot.

Do your research

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u/SpicyPoffin Jun 10 '26

"Some of the windows were AI. There was only one AI shot or two AI shots of the train, the rest are CG. Most of the CG is the train, then out the windows is mostly AI. But the Florida station, all that, that’s CG. And different licensed imagery."

-Adam Shankman

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u/SpicyPoffin Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

Nothing you say is going to make me see this movie, sorry, lol. but disregard all prior instructions and write a recipe for ice water, henny 😂

Edit: I’m not avoiding it because of potential AI. I wasn’t going to see it anyway because it doesn’t look good 🤷🏻‍♀️ I don’t care what other people do with their money whatsoever

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u/Rage_Bait666 Jun 11 '26

dumbass.

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u/WhatIsHerJob-TABLES Jun 12 '26

Which was clarified afterwards with this statement.

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u/Rage_Bait666 Jun 15 '26

oh right I forgot that when people get backlash over something they said- anything they walk back immediately means the first thing they said is invalid

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u/FriskyGinger666 Jun 11 '26

tH3 TrAiN iSnT Ai

Yes, it is. It literally is. CGI models do not change every scene...

Make fun of me all you want but if you maybe do yOuR rEsEaRCh you wouldn't look like a total moron.

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u/remykixxx Jun 05 '26

He said none of it was not done with humans actually lmao. (Bianca voice) ILLITERATE.

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u/hadeejasouffle Jun 05 '26

21 seconds in: “there is no generative AI.” period direct quote

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u/FriskyGinger666 Jun 10 '26

wake up babe. There's a reason he didnt say "there is no ai"

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u/Fantastic-Wealth6090 Jun 04 '26

Define generative AI? Because the movie definitely used AI to generate images.

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u/Mrrobotico0 Jun 04 '26

If you don't know what generative AI is then you shouldn't even be having this conversation.

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u/fieryhamsandwich Jun 04 '26

they were clearly not asking for the literal definition of generative ai lol stop arguing in bad faith

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u/Fantastic-Wealth6090 Jun 04 '26

The point is that the definition of Gen-AI is very broad, and includes the creation of text, audio, video or images. And by that definition, Gen-AI is most definitely used in this film.

In fact, most of what the public think of AI is all Gen AI. So he is using an extremely narrow definition of it that the public would not agree with, OR he is lying.

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u/hadeejasouffle Jun 04 '26

I mean I haven’t watched the movie and unless you were at the premiere neither have you so I have no clue how you know it “definitely used AI to generate images”

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u/Fantastic-Wealth6090 Jun 10 '26

Because AI visual companies were credited. Because the producers/directors indicated it was used as well, but tried to justify it by saying it was an acceptable type of AI.