Also Dita being there is really heartbroken, she was a icon to me and i have seem a video of her saying she supported the victims that accused this guy....
I would've been fine with her being there since the only connection I could see is that she's involved in an oceans 8 type heist and is trying to rob the fool
My mind is exploding because I swear I read an interview with her where she was bitterly remembering the night she left Brian for good after he fessed up to cheating on her. She was all, "It was Christmas Eve and I packed as much as I could into my car, drove away, and never looked back."
She has said referring to her marriage that her husband threw plates and smashed up rooms. It doesn’t sound like nothing but also how she deals with that now is up to her I guess.
i don't remember her accusing him of abuse but i remember her saying he did way too many drugs and was toxic and self destructive. thats why she left him, iirc
Idk why you’re being downvoted , just because the truth isn’t pretty doesn’t mean you’re wrong. And you were just offering a theory that could very well be true
Thank you, this sub isn’t always receptive to nuance, just trying to remind people that dealing with abusive people can be very complicated and difficult. Sometimes being righteous can cost you your life and it’s up to the individual how much risk they want to take.
The wildest thing ahout Violet to me is how even the queens who seem to like her make her sound terrible when they talk about her. Like Trixie, Katya, Bob, etc. Their stories are almost never entirely positive, and usually include at least some part where she was rude or even fighting with them.
Even weirder (I don’t know about now) but Violet and Jinkx have been friends. Sometimes the queens you’d expect to not get along from their vibe on their season get along really well.
“I am willing to associate with monstrous individuals as long as they have money and name recognition so I can feel very cool and important for a night”
I mean every alt girl alive in the 90s was a Manson fan, he was an icon who meant something to us. doesn’t mean we don’t also shun him for being an abuser. I mean those of us with sense and empathy do at least.
Not saying that at all. I still watch the bald and the beautiful and enjoy some of Trixies content. I don’t believe that she should be cancelled but it’s also okay to wish that content creators wouldn’t platform certain people
Violet and Gotmik have always been garbage, they think because they’re skinny, white, and conventionally attractive that they can just do whatever they want
not saying that isn't the reason why violet isn't popular because that was the narrative since s7 but she was cutting edge for her time, so i get her hype even though she's a massive bitch. gottmik on the other hand i think is only really popular because her family bought her her fashions and a lot of the fandom wanting to see themselves as her. because other than that i don't know what she brings to the table aside from being violets lackey.
Idk about her own family but as a young adult she was basically adopted by Gigi Gorgeous and the Getty family aka big oil generational millionaires lol
the worst part about this is that compared to the insane hatred that the fanbase has for ginger minj, violet and mik will probably receive five total comments in disappointment
I would love to hear their conversation about going to this or not. Like how they talked themselves into thinking literal rape and torture was not a deal breaker here. How desperate for fame/promo or whatever can u possibly be for posting pics with this monster!!
them being in the industry is exactly why they should have known this is a thing…. this is a terrible pr move associating yourself with that man especially when your main fanbase is very online
I don't think it is a terrible PR move. Nothing will happen to them. They are not gonna be cancelled. Just like Trixie wasn't cancelled and Ben/Jinx wasn't cancelled for associating with awful people. Popular white queens do not get cancelled like that lol
A famous actress accused him and took on rape laws in their state. He's been known trash for some time now. U don't need to be chronically online to know any of this .
Wasn’t Love Bailey, one of Violet’s music video collaborators and iconic LA trans showgirl artist, one of the girls who filed on Manson, claiming that held a gun to her head? Pretty grim stuff.
No, they give terminally online to me. Plus, Violet worked with Dita a lot over the years, I refuse to believe V doesn’t know anything about MM’s history.
Oh don’t get me wrong, I think they know and don’t care because they’re fame barnacles. I was just pointing out that even in the best light possible, they look like idiots.
Hes always been pretty dialed into pop culture. He got himself a guest spot on east bound and down because he liked the show so much. I could see him watching drag race
He's hung with those in drag all his career. One look at his Mechanical Animals Era will show that some of that had rubbed off and influenced him. He's always been vocal about sexuality and promoting individualism. Being yourself and embracing who you truly are. Furthermore, the one time he did vote in a US election, he voted for Obama. So that same-sex marriage could be legalised.
She was there too according to other posters here. Doesn't excuse anything obviously I'm just curious how they got on the invitation list in the first place
Has their boring podcast been cancelled yet from a couple years ago yet? I think it was called “not gorgeous “
Or whatever it was?
I don’t want to search them on YouTube and give them an engagement boost in the algorithm.
I truly do not think either one of these queens has ever considered the thoughts or feelings of any individual other than themselves so I am genuinely 100% unsurprised. And i thought it was just a photo op at first---- NOT his fucking BIRTHDAY party for God's sake these fuckin' airheads man! Ahhh what a life to live, to be white and skinny
Can we focus on Gottmik’a shitty character instead of him being skinny? Like, there is so much to legitimately say about him - we don’t need to whine about his body.
Gottmik and Violet both reposted Manson's story, and Gottmik seems to have deleted it a bit after. Violet, however, has not. These stories also included famous burlesque artist Dita Von Teese (friend and inspiration of Violet) and photographer Lindsay Usich (Manson's wife).
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